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    Updated
    15
    Apr
    2013
    9:16am, EDT

    Kerry: China must do more to resolve North Korean missile crisis

    Wrapping up his six-nation tour, Secretary of State John Kerry told NBC's Andrea Mitchell he's open to direct talks between the U.S. and North Korea, if Pyongyang stops testing nuclear weapons and issuing threats.

    Andrea Mitchell and Ian Johnston, NBC News writes

    TOKYO -- Secretary of State John Kerry has called on China to do more to help resolve the North Korean missile crisis, saying the country provided the Pyongyang regime with a “lifeline.”

    In an interview with NBC's TODAY that aired on Monday, Kerry also said any deal with the rogue state would need to be structured so that Pyongyang could not later renege on its terms.

    In Beijing, John Kerry tried to persuade China's President Xi Jinping to lean on his ally, North Korea - arguing that Pyongyang's erratic young leader is now threatening the stability of the entire region. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

    The crisis developed after North Korea threatened to carry out a pre-emptive nuclear strike against its enemies in response to United Nations sanctions imposed because of an underground nuclear test in February and a rocket test in December.

    In recent days the North Koreans have readied missiles for launch and some speculated this would happen on Monday, when the nation celebrates the birth of founder Kim Il Sung, current leader Kim Jong Un’s grandfather.

    In an interview in Tokyo before flying back to the U.S. on Monday, Kerry said that if the missiles were not fired “that would mean perhaps we're turning a corner and there's a possibility of moving in a better direction.”

    “Everybody understands the negative side of what happens if there is a shoot.  And my hope is that we can move in a different direction here. China, I think, is serious about this,” he said. “They understand the instability this is creating.”

    Kerry said it was “very important” for the United States to make clear to North Korea that there would be “consequences for their action” and to reaffirm its security agreements with its allies in the region.

    “That done, I think it is very important to the Chinese to focus on the fact that ... if they're not prepared to put the pressure on the North -- and they have the greatest ability to have an impact on the North -- then this can become more destabilizing,” he said. “And that instability is not in China's interest, certainly. It's not in anybody's interest in the region.”

    “So if we're going to operate according to what's in people's interest, China's and everybody else's, I believe China needs to become more engaged in this effort,” he said.

    Secretary of State John Kerry opened the door to direct disarmament talks with North Korea, but there is still no sign Kim Jong Un is prepared to stop testing nuclear weapons. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

    “It is obvious that China is the lifeline to North Korea. Everybody knows that China provides the vast majority of the fuel to North Korea.  China is their biggest trading party, their biggest food donor and so forth,” he added.

    When asked about a comment by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., that North Korea had a history of breaking diplomatic deals, Kerry replied: "John is absolutely correct, that has been the pattern. And I have raised that issue with the Chinese … There has been a history of ... just playing this game and then ultimately there's cheating or a complete reneging. We are determined, I am determined to try to find if there is a different formula.  And that is a … conversation that I specifically had with the Chinese.”

    On Sunday, Kerry said the United States was prepared to “reach out” to North Korea’s leadership.

    The United States has offered talks, but on the precondition that North Korea abandon its nuclear weapons ambitions. North Korea deems its nuclear arms a "treasured sword" and has vowed never to give them up.

    On Monday, North Korean state media made hardly a mention of conflict in contrast to weeks of tirades against its enemies in what some saw as good sign.

    "South Korea and the United States have sent a message for dialogue, so for now the North is switching to that mode," Yang Moo-jin, of the University of North Korean Studies in Seoul, told Reuters. "The North's strategic intention has been to try to get some kind of response from the United States and South Korea and now they have that. They won't be brushing away the suggestions to enter dialogue lightly." 

    'Bright faces'
    In Pyongyang on Monday, residents spilled into the streets in apparent celebration, The Associated Press reported. Girls in red and pink jackets skipped along streets festooned with celebratory banners and flags and parents pushed strollers with babies bundled up against the chill.

    "Although the situation is tense, people have got bright faces and are very happy," Han Kyong Sim, a drink stand worker, told the AP. 

    Slideshow: North Korea's young leader, Kim Jong Un

    The youngest son of Kim Jong Il succeeded his late father in 2011, becoming the third member of his family to rule the unpredictable and reclusive communist state.

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    North Korea's state-controlled KCNA news agency reported that Kim Jong Un had received a letter from the Central Committee of the Anti-Imperialist National Democratic Front that praised his grandfather.

    “The life of Kim Il Sung was an epic-like one of an invincible hero who clarified the truth that arms are a lifeline of the nation and guarantees the victory of revolution, restored the country by leading to victory the hard-fought battles against the Japanese and the U.S. imperialists,” the letter said.

    The letter “pledged to join the all-people resistance to frustrate the frantic moves of the hostile forces for a nuclear war and make positive contribution to bringing about a fresh turn in the efforts for national reunification,” KCNA said.

    South Korea's Defense Ministry said it remained on guard against any missile launch to coincide with Kim Il Sung’s birth, Reuters reported.

    "The military is not easing up on its vigilance on the activities of the North's military with the view that they can conduct a provocation at any time," a ministry spokesman said. 

    Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

    Related:

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    Full North Korea coverage from NBC News

    This story was originally published on Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:01 AM EDT

    418 comments

    Perhaps if secretary kerry were to stand on the demilitarized zone and throw his metals into N. Korea that might just show them who they are dealing with.

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  • Updated
    12
    Apr
    2013
    6:22pm, EDT

    Chinese social media mock Kim Jong Un

    From mobile bureaus in Seoul, Beijing and Tokyo, NBC's Richard Engel, Ian Williams and Ayman Mohyeldin chat about the ongoing situation in North Korea and how their missile threats are impacting the region.

    As North Korea continues its bellicose rhetoric, the U.S., as well as China and the rest of Asia are on high alert.

    A team of NBC News correspondents have been deployed to cover the potential impact of a missile launch: Richard Engel is in Seoul, South Korea;  Ian Williams is in Beijing, China; and Ayman Mohyeldin is in Tokyo, Japan.

    On Friday, they all participated in a Google+ Hangout and discussed the attitudes in their respective countries towards North Korea's rhetoric, the real potential of a missile launch and much more.

    Ian Williams weighed in from Beijing saying that the North Korea story has recently generated an “explosion of interest” in the official Chinese state media over the last few days. But what he finds even more significant is the attention the story is getting on social media in China.

    Left to right: Ayman Mohyeldin, Richard Engel, Ian Williams.

    “Social media, the Internet, is the closest barometer we have got of public opinion here in China. And they are absolutely laying into North Korea. The criticism is  – not of the U.S. – but of North Korea. There are caricatures, there are cartoons, they’ve dubbed the leader Kim Jong Un as ‘Fatty the Third’ or ‘Little Fatty,” Williams reported. Adding “It’s serious – they are questioning precisely what he’s going to stick on top of one of his missiles, questioning the military capability. But also criticizing their own leadership for their association with what they see as a Neanderthal regime whose methods are very chilling.”

    Click on the link above to replay the informative chat from three of NBC’s most experienced foreign correspondents.

    Social media serve as a gauge of public opinion in China and according to Ian Williams "they are absolutely laying into North Korea"

     

    This story was originally published on Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:10 PM EDT

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    I'm sure all 12 Google+ Hangout users will be there.

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  • Updated
    15
    Mar
    2013
    7:28pm, EDT

    US to deploy more ground-based missile interceptors as North Korea steps up threats

    Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said North Korea's long-range missiles prompted the U.S. military to bolster its missile defense system in Alaska. NBC's Jim Miklaszewski reports.

    M. Alex Johnson, staff writer, NBC News writes

    The U.S. is deploying 14 new ground-based missile interceptors in Alaska to counter renewed nuclear threats from North Korea and Iran, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Friday.


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    The new interceptors will be based at Fort Greely, an Army launch site about 100 miles southeast of Fairbanks, Alaska, and are projected to be fully deployed by 2017, Hagel said. The additions will bring the U.S.-based ground interceptor deployment from 30 to 44, including four that are based in California.


    That will boost U.S. missile defense capability by 50 percent and "make clear to the world that the United States stands firm against aggression," he said in a briefing at the Pentagon.

    The announcement comes as North Korea has been making bellicose threats to void the armistice that ended the Korean War and launch a nuclear attack on the U.S. The U.S. and South Korea began annual military drills this week despite the North Korean threats.

    Hagel said the U.S. would also shift some "resources," which he didn't specify, from the delayed Aegis anti-missile program in Europe to U.S.-based defenses, saying the Aegis program was "lagging" because of reduced congressional funding. And he reiterated previously announced plans to add a second U.S. anti-ballistic missile radar installation in Japan.

    North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un is trying to prove his strength, causing experts to worry that Pyongyang's threats could get out of control. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

    Taking all of the moves together, "we will be able to add protection against missiles from Iran sooner while also proving protection against the threat from North Korea," he said.

    Even before the announcement, Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H., a member of the Armed Services Committee, criticized the news, saying it was too little and too late.

    "I applaud the Obama administration's decision, but it shouldn't have taken the predictable saber-rattling from North Korea to bring this about," Ayotte said in a statement Friday. 

    Pointing to Iran's nuclear program, Ayotte called on the Obama administration to "move expeditiously to construct an East Coast missile defense site."

    "Americans living in the Eastern United States should have the same level of missile defense protection as those in the West," she said.

    Courtney Kube and Kelly O'Donnell of NBC News contributed to this report. Follow M. Alex Johnson on Twitter and Facebook.

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    This story was originally published on Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:28 PM EDT

    847 comments

    Best defense is a good offense.

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  • 12
    Dec
    2012
    8:36am, EST

    ANALYSIS: 'Spoiled child' North Korea snubs key ally China with rocket test

    The international community is condemning North Korea's launch of a long-range rocket, with the US and its allies calling it a test of technology that Pyongyang would need to mount a nuclear warhead on a missile. NBC's Jim Miklaszewski reports.

    Ian Williams, NBC News writes

    BEIJING - There was anger and dismay after North Korea launched a long-range rocket into orbit on Wednesday -- plenty of it in South Korea and Japan. There was also surprise.

    North Korea had warned of a possible delay to the launch for "technical reasons," although there was speculation that the real reason was political, that China was applying pressure behind the scenes. After all, Beijing had expressed "deep concern" over the test, and that is pretty strong for China, the North's closest diplomatic and economic ally.


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    So Wednesday's test would seem to be an extraordinary snub to China, when it might be assumed that North Korea's new young leader, Kim Jong Un, would want to get off on a good footing with China's new Communist Party chief, Xi Jinping.

    North Korea watchers have been speculating that Kim is angling for an early audience with Xi, which so far has been denied.

    North Korea says it successfully launched controversial satellite into orbit

    KCNA via Reuters

    North Korean scientists work as a screen shows the Unha-3 (Milky Way 3) rocket being launched Wednesday.

    Launching a rocket in defiance of Beijing would hardly seem a great way of achieving it.

    Beijing's initial response was a masterful piece of diplomatic contortionism -- expressing "regret" and calling on Pyongyang to abide by U.N. Security Council resolutions, but at the same time making clear that China isn't about to back sanctions against the North.

    A Foreign Ministry spokesman called for a resumption of six-party talks, even though these have been widely discredited, and called for "all sides" to act calmly.

    There was anger, dismay and some surprise as North Korea launched a rocket in defiance of its critics abroad. NBC's Ian Williams reports from Beijing.

    North Korea claims US mainland within range of its missiles

    International talks are a big favorite of Beijing, which likes the role of diplomatic ringmaster.

    Pyongyang squandered the United States’ trust earlier this year after its April missile test torpedoed a February agreement with the Americans that would have traded U.S. food aid for a suspension of major elements of its nuclear program.

    So, what to make of North Korean-China relations? And what pressure is China willing and able to exert on North Korea?

    Despite the rocket launch’s international reverberations, Pyongyang's motive was largely domestic, according to Stephanie Kleine-Ahlbrandt of the International Crisis Group, a non-governmental organization that works to prevent deadly conflict around the world.

    The move was meant to boost the standing of the young Kim, who has not yet fully consolidated power, and whose credibility was damaged by the failure earlier this year of another attempt to put a satellite into orbit (a thinly disguised ballistic missile test in the view of the U.S. and her allies), she said.

    North Korea leader Kim Jong Un still a mystery, Leon Panetta says

    And it is fair to speculate that Kim was probably on the edge of his seat during the launch.

    "This definitely will be used heavily for internal propaganda in North Korea," Kleine-Ahlbrandt told NBC News. "It's certainly important in light of the failed rocket launch we saw in April."

    There have also been reports in the South Korean press (always to be taken with caution) that after purging his enemies, Kim himself  was feeling vulnerable, and had limited his travel outside of Pyongyang while beefing up security around his residences with armored vehicles.

    Pyongyang also probably wanted to show Beijing that it is not beholden to anybody, Kleine-Ahlbrandt said, which would seem like quite a high stakes game given the parlous state of the North Korean economy.

    Reuters TV

    A North Korean KRT TV presenter announces the successful launch in this still image taken from TV.

    North Korea: We found a unicorn lair

    So, how to read China’s reaction?

    “They could certainly do more to pressure Pyongyang,” Kleine-Ahlbrandt said. “And the West would certainly like to see them do that.”

    As Beijing prizes stability above all else and would not want to do anything that would further exacerbate tensions or hasten the demise of a fragile regime, China may have a longer-term goal in mind, she said. Beijing was probably intent on heading off another nuclear test, which the North has hinted at, and that would be seen internationally as a far graver development than Wednesday’s rocket launch.

    Yan Xuetong, the dean of the Institute of International Studies at Beijing’s Tsinghua University, had a more nuanced view of Chinese diplomacy.

    “If China wants to maintain its relatively large influence over North Korea, it has no choice but to adopt a different policy,” than the U.S., he told Reuters.

    China was likely as surprised as anybody else by the timing of the launch.

    If it is to step up pressure, Beijing is unlikely to publicize it actions. Its immediate aim has been to get the North to adopt Chinese-style economic reforms.

    Back in 2010, as part of the leak of the U.S. diplomatic cable, it was revealed that Chinese officials had described North Korea as a “spoiled child.”  That assessment is unlikely to have changed.

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    188 comments

    China needs to understand that North Korea is nobody's 'ally', and NK will attack anyone at any time over the most inconsequential thing. The rulers of NK do not seem to understand that even though they have a moderate amount of power for the size of their country, they cannot possibly manage to sus …

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  • 13
    Apr
    2012
    6:17pm, EDT

    Is North Korea nuclear test next? That would fit history of provocation, US officials say

    Pedro Ugarte / AFP - Getty Images

    After Friday's rocket launch failure, North Korean military officials attend the unveiling ceremony of two statues of former leaders Kim Il-Sung and Kim Jong-Il in Pyongyang.

    Robert Windrem writes

    U.S. officials and others who track the nuclear capabilities and internal politics of North Korea say they don't see any indications that Pyongyang is planning an imminent nuclear test, but they caution that after the embarrassment of Friday's failed rocket launch it could move provocatively and quickly to do so.

    "We consider it at any time a possibility," said one U.S. official who follows North Korea and who briefed NBC News on condition of anonymity. "Might kind of ruin the party or enhance it", he added, referring to Sunday's celebration of North Korean founder Kim il-Sung's 100th birthday.

    The officials and experts who spoke with NBC News on Friday questioned whether the North would want to risk another, far greater embarrassment so quickly after the rocket failure. But if it does conduct a nuclear test, it will be following a long tradition of crisis escalation, they said. 


    The usual sequence in a North Korea crisis is threefold, said a second U.S. official, also speaking on condition of anonymity. First, the North does something untoward, and then the West protest, the official said. In response, North Korea does something to provoke even more reaction and get more attention, with the goal of ultimately driving the U.S. to the negotiating table. In this case that third piece could be the nuclear test, the official said. 

    "What surprises me is how quickly this is moving. Things that used to happen in years (in North Korea) are now happening in months," said the second official. "When things start spinning fast, I don’t think that's stable, that's safe. So that's concerning.”

    David Phillips of Columbia University's Institute for the Study of Human Rights and a North Korea expert, said the government of Kim il-Un does not have to "go nuclear." It has at least two options if it decides to make noise on the international stage: a renewed attack on South Korean islands or naval vessels, or a nuclear test, he said.

    "One would be a serious provocation," Phillips said of the first option; the other would quickly become a "global issue."

    U.S., South Korean and Japanese officials and experts note that there have been recent preparations at North Korea’s P'unggye-yok test site that could signal a nuclear test, but said those preparations have not intensified over the last few days.

    David Albright of the Institute for Science in International Security said his analysts have been monitoring the site almost daily using commercial satellite imagery, but have detected only some movement of earth at a tunnel, which may or may not be related to a test.  Albright agrees that a test would quickly move the North's nuclear program to the forefront of global crises.

    One thing that could fuel the crisis, he said, would be for the West, particularly Japan and South Korea, to ridicule the failure of Friday’s satellite launch. 

    "It makes the North Korean military mad,” said Albright, who has visited Pyongyang and met with senior North Korean officials. “If they feel that they are now perceived as weaker, they may react to re-establish their deterrence capabilities."

    That, he says, could lead to a further escalation of tensions in the region.

    "It would further lock in the view that North Korea does not intend to give up nuclear weapons and it would greatly worry Japan, which always feels it is in the North Korean bull’s-eye,” he said. “Among the public in both Japan and North Korea, it would greatly stimulate the debate that they should get nuclear weapons."

    Particularly worrisome for the U.S., senior security officials told NBC News, is the possibility that North Korea would test more sophisticated weapons designs – hydrogen bombs or so-called "boosted fission" weapons, both with yields that far exceed those of nuclear designs. Either a "boosted fission" weapon or a hydrogen bomb would be expect to have yields in the tens or hundreds of kilotons, or many times greater than the bombs the U.S. dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan, at the end of World War II.   

    It is also possible the North Koreans could detonate a device fueled by highly enriched uranium (HEU) rather than plutonium, the officials said. . The North Koreans have used plutonium exclusively in the first two tests nuclear in 2006 and 2009.

    Any of those tests -- HEU, "boosted fission" or thermonuclear-- would show that the North had more advanced weapons design and development capabilities, they said.

    Indeed, U.S. officials said North Korea has done significant research into both "boosted fission" and thermonuclear weapons development in recent years. However, without testing, it couldn't be certain that such a weapon is reliable. One constraint, they said, would be whether the geology around the test site could withstand a test.

    One U.S. official also said that U.S. intelligence might not be able to immediately confirm or contradict North Korean claims in the wake of such a test.

    "If they do a very high yield test and get into multiple tens of kilotons, and they say it's thermonuclear, unless we have some kind of particulate sampling data, I'm not sure what we're going to say,” said one official. “And their statements could add to the confusion."

    Phillips, the Columbia University expert, noted that a North Korean nuclear test could complicate U.S. proliferation priorities. What's more significant, he asked, an Iranian program that has been slogging along or a North Korean program with more than a dozen nuclear weapons, some of which that could have yields in the hundreds of kilotons.

    “The Obama administration has been focused on Iran as the primary nuclear threat and proliferator. Many believe that Iran is a rational actor that will serve its own national interest and preserve the regime,” said Phillips. “The same can’t be said about North Korea. Successive generation of leaders in North Korea have shown that they are unpredictable and erratic. The recent satellite launch was designed to burnish the authority of its news leader. Instead its had the opposite effect internationally. ... There is now real risk of a nuclear test, which may now be accelerated by the launch failure and that’s the problem.”

    And despite the failure of Friday’s rocket launch, U.S. officials say they expect North Korea to continue trying to develop a missile capability that could deliver a warhead big enough to destroy a U.S. city.

    “The intelligence community has assessed for a number of years,” said the first U.S. official, “that this (launch) vehicle would be capable of reaching the continental United States -- beyond Alaska, beyond Hawaii --  with a payload of several hundred kilotons.”

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    Who the hell is Kim il-Un??? Far as I can tell, and I'm an expert on Asia as well, that ain't the guy's name. It's Kim JONG Un. STAY IN SCHOOL Where is NBC hiring from these days? Walmart? Jeeeeeeeziz H. Tapdancing Christ, this is one of the biggest news fails I've ever seen.

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  • 13
    Apr
    2012
    3:59pm, EDT

    Failed rocket launch? What rocket launch?

    After experiencing a critical failure, there has been almost no talk about the rocket that never entered orbit. NBC's Richard Engel reports.

    Ed Flanagan writes

    PYONGYANG, North Korea – Quickly after the failed launch of the Kwangmyongsong-2 rocket, two things became abundantly clear: We, the foreign press corps brought in to cover the launch, knew far less about it than our colleagues outside of North Korea, and the only people we would be informing about anything today would be our government-assigned guides/minders.

    Many of the foreign news crews – which have been in Pyongyang for about a week – had been assured multiple times by our minders that we would get the opportunity to witness the launch. Two large video screens installed in our little hotel newsroom late Thursday appeared to validate that belief.

    Between scuttlebutt gleaned from our research and talks with North Korean space officials, many of us believed that our coverage would begin with an early wake-up call Friday morning from our minders whenever they got the word.

    Instead, that wake-up call came not from any North Korean officials, but from NBC’s foreign news desk, prompting us to head down to the newsroom – the only place in the hotel where we can access the Internet – to confirm what was happening.

    But what was there to report? Inside the newsroom, the video screens were blank, and local North Korean TV was not showing any rocket coverage. A section of the newsroom seemingly set-up as a post-launch podium for North Korean officials to answer questions was staffed by a disinterested minder.


    Meanwhile, on Twitter and foreign news websites, initial reports of a botched launch were being followed up with details about the failure: the location of the debris, what the rocket looked like before it exploded and initial reaction from foreign governments on the incident.

    Yet the North Koreans minders were idly chatting among themselves, completely oblivious to the botched launch that just happened, and apparently planning for just another day of guiding us on another highly orchestrated visit through the city.

    The North Korean rocket launch fails as the world is watching. See NBC's Richard Engel first report shortly after learning the news in Pyongyang.

    That sense was confirmed as I ran back and forth between the newsroom and the live shot positions outdoors. “Please be ready to go this morning for a music festival,” said one minder as he cornered me on a trip back to the newsroom.

    “There is no way we’re going on that trip!” I replied. “You know the satellite launch failed today, right?”

    My declaration was met with an incredulous stare before the minder slowly turned around and walked away. It was a scene replayed multiple times as minders, unsure what all the excitement was about, corralled journalists and had the news broken to them.

    This led to a mass exodus of minders.

    North Korea faces rocket reality: Failure is an option

    Ironically though, at the one moment when we the press suddenly had the most freedom we’d had all trip, no one had the means to take advantage and begin covering the North Korean side of the launch.
      
    As the pandemonium of the initial push to break news passed, many of us expected the North Koreans to call some sort of press conference to acknowledge the failure and explain what had gone wrong.

    But the podium remained unused and the pokerfaced North Koreans in the room gave no hint that we would hear anything from the government about the launch failure. A terse statement on North Korean state television had acknowledged the rocket’s flop into the water to the public, but nothing else.

    The lone statement was a great first step toward North Korea becoming a more open and possibly reflects a quiet confidence in the country’s new leader, Kim Jong-un.

    Kyodo / Reuters

    Kim Jong-un (C), current leader of North Korea, reacts after fireworks were released during the unveiling ceremony of bronze statues of North Korea founder Kim Il-sung and late leader Kim Jong-il in Pyongyang on Friday. North Korea said its much hyped long-range rocket launch failed on Friday, in a very rare and embarrassing public admission of failure by the hermit state.

    Unlike his father, Kim Jong-il, who covered up past launch failures, the younger Kim has demonstrated a degree of assuredness in publicly acknowledging the rocket disaster to his people.

    This certainly doesn’t mean that the country is turning over a new leaf – after all, the rocket test stunt itself shows that bad habits die hard, if at all. However, Kim’s concession suggests that this young, new leader may not strictly follow the game plan of his predecessors.

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    176 comments

    I could do better with a $100 rocket kit.

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  • 13
    Apr
    2012
    10:07am, EDT

    NBC's space expert Jim Oberg on N.Korea launch failure

    North Korea’s controversial rocket launch failed early Friday within 90 seconds of taking off.  

    It was an embarrassing set-back for North Korea’s new leader Kim Jong-un. But with all eyes on the reclusive country and the presence of foreign media, officials were forced to acknowledge the failure with a brief statement on state TV.

    James Oberg, NBC News’s space expert and a 22-year NASA veteran, answered reader questions about the failed launch from Pyongyang earlier today.

    Please click on the link below to read the chat.

    Click to see more of Oberg's reports from North Korea

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    Obama to North Korea: No soup for YOU!!!

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  • 12
    Apr
    2012
    9:34am, EDT

    NBC News' space expert answers questions about North Korea's satellite launch

    The five-day window for the launch of a North Korean rocket mounted with an observation satellite opened Thursday as the rest of the world waits to see if Pyongyang will defy international warnings and go ahead with the controversial mission.

    NBC News is in North Korea to observe the launch with space expert James Oberg. With a 22-year career as a space engineer in support of NASA’s spaceflight operations, Oberg has the experience and technical expertise to determine the veracity of North Korea’s claims about this mission.

    Oberg answered reader questions for an hour earlier today. The questions and answers were extremely engaging and informative.
    Click below to replay the chat.


    Read some of Oberg's reports on North Korea's space program:

    What happens if North Korea's satellite fails?

    North Koreans desperate for Western approval of launch

    North Korea's 'unconvincing' answers to satellite questions

    NBC space expert on North Korea satellite launch: 'It's not a military missile...but it's darn close'

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    Did you miss the chat? We'll be talking about North Korea on the Weekly Space Hangout: http://cosmoquest.org/Hangouts/ ... It's just a few space scribes sitting around talking, and I'm afraid none of us are logging in from North Korea. But it is real-time video and chat. We'll also be talking about  …

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  • 11
    Apr
    2012
    3:46pm, EDT

    North Koreans desperate for Western approval of launch

    The country's satellite is poised to launch to commemorate the 100th birthday of Kim Il-sung, but there are some doubts over whether it will ever go into orbit. NBC's Richard Engel reports.

    Ed Flanagan writes

    PYONGYANG, North Korea – With just one day before North Korea’s expected controversial satellite launch to commemorate the 100th birthday of “Great Leader” Kim Il-sung, the government invited journalists to view its Mission Control – the nerve center where the rocket and satellite will be monitored and guided from.

    Coming after a press conference the day before, this was likely our last preview of preparations before launch. It was important because it gave us a critical view of the real operators of the satellite. 

    Following the visit, NBC News sat down with 22-year NASA Mission Control veteran and NBC space consultant James Oberg to discuss what he learned from this visit and his expectations for the launch.

    First off, what were your impressions of the Control Center? Was it as you expected it to be?
    It looked like a real control center – from the outside as well as the inside. First the communications links – two communications domes and a pretty hefty antenna farm on top of the hill – looked real, and inside the displays appeared logical and made sense to me.

    Digitalglobe / via AFP - Getty Images

    This DigitalGlobe satellite image obtained April 11, 2012, shows an image of the Tongchang-ri Launch Facility in North Korea. This image was taken April 9, 2012.

    One difference: There was a big sign outside the building here that I found out didn’t actually say Mission Control Center; instead, it said, “Everyone follow the leadership of the Great General.”


    The director of the center made a short speech and then specifically called for you to come to the front of the press scrum to witness everything. What was that like for you?
    It was certainly flattering, but clearly also an attempt at manipulation because he asked me to endorse his claim that the satellite launch was peaceful. Still, I recognized it as a gesture of respect for the American space program, for which I am the only representative to have ever visited the North Korean space program, though completely unauthorized officially by NASA.

    For a while there, it seemed like there were as many North Korean cameras focused on you as foreign ones. Did you expect all that attention today?
    No, I didn’t. But when you think about it and realize how desperate the North Koreans are for the appearance of Western approval, they’re bound to look for it wherever they can get it. Just the presence of this press corps, not just me, is interpreted as a sign of foreign respect for the program.

    Some might view your presence at the launch center as a convenient propaganda prop for their claims. How do you respond to that?
    They certainly felt it was. But I was able to use the visibility to raise some questions they had not yet answered to my satisfaction. I stressed that the boasted transparency of the North Koreans was nowhere near complete and that we didn’t have reliable insight into what was under the nose cone of that rocket.

    The director joked about letting one journalist ride on the rocket. I told him that photographs of the installation of the satellite would be enough to dispel lingering suspicions, including in my own mind. He promised to provide them, but I’m not holding my breath.

    One of your primary questions over the last couple of days has been how soon after launch would we start to receive radio signals from the satellite to confirm its success. Do you feel you got an adequate answer on that?
    Absolutely. The director gave an answer that was totally consistent with my own calculations that it might be up to 12 hours before they get a good solid communications link with the satellite.

    In the meantime, he enthusiastically agreed that amateur radio listeners around the world should try to pick up the signal, which he assured us would be broadcast continuously. Of course, it’s to their advantage that a foreign expert confirm the first proof of the satellite’s successful launch since controversy remains over the success of their [previous] satellite launch, which they still insist was successful against all other evidence.

    At one point you asked where the equivalent of your old console would be in the control room and he pointed to the orbital information station in the room, a station you manned for many years. That was pretty impressive.
    Yeah, I got a kick out of that. But it’s too bad I couldn’t talk to the actual operator. Because there are still interesting – to me, at least – questions about some third-stage rocket steering maneuvers they seem to need during launch to get into their target orbit. We could have had a real geek-level conversation that would have blown the interpreter’s mind.

    NBC’s Richard Engel, as well as other Western journalists, continued to ask North Korean officials about the military application of these rockets, but the answers were at times exasperated and sometimes sarcastic. What do you make of it?
    We’re really engaged in dual disconnected monologues here, not a real conversation. The North Koreans don’t seem to understand foreign objections and act as if their pure ideological correctness deserves worldwide obedience. They’ve dug themselves deep into the true-believer’s self-delusion that disagreement is caused by stupidity and malice, a bad habit that isn’t restricted to this corner of the world. In the West we have a hard time understanding how genuinely crazy so many North Korean projects – such as this satellite – really may be. 

    But isn’t political single-mindedness a plus for advancing a difficult effort such as space exploration?
    It might seem so at first, but I’m beginning to worry that the opposite is more likely to turn out to be true.  An effective safety culture in space, or any other high-tech field, demands disobedience and independent thinking from people who detect real problems that require real solutions.

    But the official North Korean reaction to difficulties looks like resorting to appeals for divine inspiration from their infallible leadership so they can bully reality to “fit” their intentions. I can’t detect any indications of the necessary kind of critical problem-solving and that’s a bad sign.

    Space programs infected by such a pathological culture, whether Soviet-era or NASA pre-Challenger [and pre-Columbia] era, or today’s North Korea, are doomed to encounter major setbacks.  As the bumper sticker warns, when it comes to human fallibility, “Man forgives, God forgives, Nature – never.”

    This visit was likely the last satellite-related site we’ll visit before the launch itself. Any final thoughts before we begin the wait for launch time?
    Opening these facilities to outside observers still strikes me as a bold and risky tactic, which I welcome. We may be able to utilize it for the good.

    As the old song wisely observes, the North Koreans may not get what they WANT from this gambit – foreign approval. But they may get what they NEED – better foreign insight into their motives and decision-making. And that could make it all worthwhile.

    Also for radio enthusiasts around the world, this could be your day to shine. The first people who will get a crack at catching the North Korean hymns the satellite will play to honor Kim Il-sung will be those in Western Australia 20 minutes after launch. About an hour after launch, the Eastern seaboard of the United States will be able to listen in.

    Radio enthusiasts hoping to listen to catch the sounds from the satellite can tune into 479MHz. North Korean officials say they will play music continuously on that frequency.

     

     

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    N. Korea should focus on automating farming and feeding her people.

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  • 10
    Apr
    2012
    3:20pm, EDT

    N. Korea's 'unconvincing' answers to satellite questions

    David Guttenfelder / AP

    Ryu Kum Chol, deputy director of space exploration in the Department of Space Technology of North Korea, speaks to the international media in Pyongyang, North Korea on Tuesday.

    Ed Flanagan writes

    PYONGYANG – Officials from North Korea’s Space Technology Committee held a special press conference for journalists today in the capital, Pyongyang. Among the topics discussed: Ongoing questions regarding the possible arming of North Korea’s rockets and the country’s new five-year plan for space.

    NBC News sat down after with 22-year NASA veteran and NBC Space Consultant James Oberg to talk about what we learned from this press conference and what questions remain.

    Q: What questions did you have coming into this press conference with the North Korea Space Technology Committee?
    A: Perhaps the most interesting one for me was how soon after launch they’ll have success or failure in the form of a radio signal from the satellite. The North Koreans said they couldn’t answer that one.

    That puzzled me because the primary responsibility of flight control is knowing when to expect indicators of success or failure like receiving a radio signal. Maybe they were just officials and not workers who care about the details.

    The other burning question for me was when the satellite was actually going to be loaded onto the rocket and what else might be underneath the payload shroud [nose cone of the rocket]. What they’ve told us about the payload is only about 25 percent of what we think a rocket can actually carry.

    They’ve pulled back so much of the secrecy – which is nice – that leaving this one area of secrecy almost underscores the mystery: Is there anything else under that nose cone.


    Q: Did you have these questions answered?
    A: They gave me answers, but the easy proof for their answers, which would be pictures of them loading the satellite, we haven’t seen. I didn’t ask today, but I want to ask for the drawings of the satellite in orbit to see how the solar panels on the satellite unfold or if they do at all.

    In regards to the timing of the radio signal and how other radio amateurs around the planet could help detect these signals, they said they would answer tomorrow [North Korean officials told journalists they would be able to visit the Payload Control Center in Pyongyang Wednesday].

    I didn’t expect any usable answers, so I didn’t bother to ask about the possible military value of the rocket, but many journalists did.

    The only thing we found out from the North Korean answers was how sloppy and unconvincing their protestations of innocence were. It doesn’t make them guilty of having a weapons-related intent, but they missed the opportunity to convincingly refute that global concern.

    North Korean space officials say they will go along with a planned rocket launch this week.  NBC's Richard Engel reports.

    NBC's Richard Engel answers reader questions from North Korea

    Q: If you were a North Korean official today, how would you have handled the outside suspicion of this satellite launch actually being a ballistic test?
    A: I would have anticipated exactly that question and prepared an answer that was credible to skeptical experts instead of to their obedient public. For me credible is not just 90 percent transparency, but 100 percent.

    The persistence of non-transparent aspects of this launch process seems unnecessary if there is nothing to hide. All it does is fan suspicions rather than soothing them.

    Q: Anything surprising or big revelations for you from this press conference?
    A: No technical surprises for me. But I was dismayed that when confronted with questions regarding previous satellite launch failures, their officials loyally proclaimed they were successful despite all independent evidence to the contrary. The officials had a chance to walk away from the question, but instead twice confronted it with assertions that the rest of the world’s space experts consider false.

    NBC's Richard Engel visits a state-run apple orchard, a breeding house for turtles and an apple juice factory.

    In my mind this is no way to encourage trust. As someone who is here to judge the credibility of the North Korean’s statements, I was ready to look forward and not back at previously discredited propaganda claims. But they just couldn’t let them go and so it weighed heavily in my own assessment of their credibility and in any future statements they make without strong evidence. 

    The other big revelation for me was that the North Koreans said they are planning to work on a more sharp-eyed earth observation satellite next.

    Q: Let’s talk about that. The North Koreans announced a new five-year plan that included, as you said, an improved observation satellite and also a stunning declaration that they were actually developing a larger rocket. What did you make of these new announcements and how important are they?
    A: They gave a plausible explanation for their focus on earth observation satellites, which was due to a series of environmental disasters beginning in the mid-1990s. But this first satellite seems almost too little, too late to be of much help when one considers you can get the same data this satellite could provide for cheaper and sooner from commercial services.

    The larger rocket is also consistent with their announced intention to launch satellites for other countries. Rocket launch services are one of the few things North Korea can export that the rest of the world wants. Unfortunately, the Russians already dominate that portion of the space market and they won’t likely yield customers easily.

    As for the military threat of any of North Korea’s rockets, including this hypothetical new one, you have to realize that even having only a handful of weaponized versions of these rockets would be intolerable to other countries like the United States.

    But in defense of the North Korean’s current rocket, they have spelled out characteristics that a non-threatening rocket should have. Now they have to live up to those standards that they themselves have set. 

    Q: Is this particular mission a logical step for a first satellite? 
    A: I’ve come to realize that it is. The North Koreans have given a reasonable justification for the kind of mission they say this satellite is performing. They are still building a rocket that seems bigger than they need and are spending more time and effort than if they had sought outside help, but their governmental ideology has once again trumped practicality.

    We’re still not sure if this launch isn’t doing other undisclosed experiments, including those associated with future weaponization and they have not provided enough transparency to eliminate that possibility.

    Q: In our previous discussion after you visited the Sohae launch site, you expressed reservations about the authenticity of the satellite. Does this press conference change any of your views on the matter?
    A: The press conference not so much, but I’ve done some online research and consultations with associates around the world and I’m now satisfied that what they showed us is within the realm of possibility of a plausible design.

    My other concern about the late installment of the satellite onto the rocket was directly addressed with an entirely plausible answer: They didn’t even realize they were out of step with standard practice. They simply did not how other space agencies schedule that type of installation. When the North Koreans say they didn’t realize how other countries did it, I can believe it.

    Q: Have the North Korean’s explanation about the peaceful application of the satellite changed your view about the potential weaponization of this missile?
    A: No, just carrying a peaceful satellite does not negate the weaponization potential of the carrier rocket. They seem to think that having a peaceful satellite makes them immune to all charges of weaponization, but it doesn’t. The rocket science says this booster design retains weapons potential regardless of what you put on top of it.

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    Science is neither good nor bad, it is simply knowledge. How that knowledge is utilized is up to those in control of it, and their moral and ethical values. Whether it is rocket science (N. Korea) or nuclear science (Iran), how they are used is up to those in power, and their track records are not e …

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  • 10
    Apr
    2012
    9:15am, EDT

    NBC's Richard Engel answers reader questions from Pyongyang, North Korea

    NBC's Richard Engel visits a state-run apple orchard, a breeding house for turtles and an apple juice factory.

    North Korea is planning to launch a new satellite within the next week. While North Korea insists that the launch of the Unha-3 rocket will merely put a weather satellite into space, U.S. and international officials are not so sure. They suspect they may be testing a long-range missile.

    North Korea invited the international media to come witness the launch and other festivities in honor of the 100th anniversary of the birth of North Korean founder Kim Il Sung.

    Richard Engel, NBC News’ Chief Foreign Correspondent, is in Pyongyang, North Korea reporting on the launch. He answered reader questions about the launch and what he’s seen of life in the reclusive country earlier today. The questions and his answers are quite interesting.


     

    Click on the box below to replay the chat.

     

    North Korean space officials say they will go along with a planned rocket launch this week.  NBC's Richard Engel reports.

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    Personally I took my meds today! Unlike many of you chicken little's my thoughts are that NK is touting this missle for just as they say it is.

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  • 9
    Apr
    2012
    4:06pm, EDT

    A rare peek inside North Korea

    Ed Flanagan writes

    Ed Flanagan / NBC News

    From atop Jangdaezae hill in Pyongyang on Monday, the visual effect of thousands of people waving flower wreaths was stunning during the event to commemorate the unveiling of a new mural of Kim Jong-il, who died last year.

    North Korea has invited international journalists into the reclusive country to witness the launch of what they say is a weather observation satellite using a three-stage rocket in mid-April. The satellite launch is timed to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the birth of North Korean founder Kim Il Sung. The United States and South Korea say the satellite launch is more likely a thinly disguised test of long-range missile technology.

    Ed Flanagan / NBC News

    NBC cameraman David Lom was intrigued by what looked like old Arri Super 16mm film cameras in Pyongyang on Monday. Popular in the late 1950s, these vintage workhorses were in stark contrast to the high-tech cameras from the international media in Pyongyang, North Korea.

    NBC’s chief foreign correspondent, Richard Engel, science expert James Oberg, producer Ed Flanagan and cameraman David Lom are in North Korea to report on the satellite launch. It provides a rare opportunity to get a glimpse inside the repressive regime as it transitions under its new leader, Kim Jong Un.


    Ed Flanagan / NBC News

    NBC News Senior Foreign Corespondent Richard Engel reports in front of tens of thousands just outside Kim Il-sung square in Pyongyang, North Korea on April 9, 2012.

    The media’s movements will be closely monitored by North Korean officials. The Yanggakdo Hotel, which was selected to house all the foreign journalists during this week’s celebrations in Pyongyang, is on an island in the middle of the Taedong River and is only accessible by two bridges.

    David Lom / NBC News

    All North Koreans wear a Kim Il-sung pin when out and about. There typically seems to be two types of pins: one with Kim's face on a flag-shaped background and another of Kim's face on a small round button. In the case of our government-appointed minder, he often wears one pin on his suit jacket and another on his white collared shirt.

    See some of the photos from a massive ceremony in Pyongyang Monday in honor of the unveiling of a new mural of Kim Jong-il, the "Dear Leader," who died last year. There are also some glimpses of ordinary life in North Korea.

    David Lom / NBC News

    On the train to the Sohae Satellite Launching Station on Sunday, our immaculate private train car frequently passed older models that serviced everyday North Koreans.

    NBC News’ Richard Engel will be participating in a LIVE Chat with readers from Pyongyang, North Korea at 10 a.m. ET Tuesday.

    David Lom / NBC News

    Within the Yanggakdo hotel, the quietly slow pace of life in Pyongyang, North Korea comes out in the hotel's photo store.

    Read more from NBC on North Korea's satellite launch: Clues about North Korea's space plans come to light at last

    North Korea rocket 'not a military missile...but it's darn close

    David Lom / NBC News

    With so many journalists around and virtually all of our movement pre-planned by government-assigned minders, it's rare that you get a natural moment. The omnipresent President Kim Il-sung smiles down approvingly from his perch atop a train station.

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    To call this news is a joke. The media will only be allowed to film and talk about what the North Korean officials want them to see and hear. The media is allowing themselves to be used to air propaganda from the North Korean government.

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