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Subscribe to RSSThe Afghan Army is training women to join its special forces. They are playing a key role in night raids, essential in the pursuit of Taliban commanders. NBC's Mandy Clark reports.
By Mandy Clark, Correspondent, NBC News
KABUL, AFGHANISTAN -- Severely outgunned, the battle was going badly. It seemed like certain defeat. Then, from out of the crowd stepped a young girl of around 14. She grabbed the pole from the fallen flag-bearer, held it up, and called out to her brothers-in-arms to fight to the death.
Though she was shot dead, her rallying cry was seen as the turning point of the 1880 Battle of Maiwand; a triumph for the Afghans, and a devastating loss for British forces during the Second Anglo-Afghan War. Her name was Malalai, Afghanistan’s Joan of Arc.
“If you go back into history, before we only had one female soldier named Malalai, but now I have a lot of Malalais in my Special Forces,” said Colonel Jalauddin Yaftaly, who heads the elite units. There are more than 1,000 women in the Afghan Army – and about two dozen have made it into Special Forces.
In a country where equality is still a huge unresolved issue, on the battlefield women are making huge strides.
Col. Yaftaly said he saw a need for women in the Special Forces to help conduct night raids. In 2011, he got permission to recruit women and has built up the female force to roughly 25, but says he needs more. Even their male colleagues say their work is essential.
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Female members of Afghan special forces in training.
‘We do face death threats’
Night raids are considered the most dangerous: Commandos enter the homes of suspected insurgents under the cover of darkness.
The military says these missions are key in capturing Taliban commanders, but they are deeply controversial because it is considered culturally offensive for male troops to search female Afghans in their homes. Now, when possible, it’s women searching women.
“Our duty is to go inside the houses, search the women and children, make them calm and get them out of danger,” said new 21-year-old recruit Zakia Halakim.
Halakim was part of the Afghan police force when she was approached to try out for the Special Forces by Col. Yaftaly, who seeks the top women in the Afghan forces.
“My family supports me, they never told me not to do it,” she said. “They know it is important for Afghanistan.”
On the firing range, Halakim is practicing with two female colleagues. Sporting dark sunglasses, a helmet and scarves wrapped round their faces, their identities are hidden. They have to be. Working alongside men has made them special targets.
The women are paid the same as the men when they are on an operation. Right now, their role is limited to night raids.
“We do face death threats because our work is outside of our culture but this is an important job,” said Halakim.
Hoping for change
“As far as the culture in this country, no it’s not acceptable in this country at all,” said Mahbouba Seraj, an executive board member at the Afghan Women’s Network. “It goes against every single grain of belief of an Afghan man.”
But Seraj believes these women might be able to change the way society thinks.
“The most important thing is whether these women are going to do their jobs and really be effective ... are they really going to be saving lives of those women in the villages? If that is the outcome, then the whole view will change,” she said.
In a training operation, the female Special Forces sweep the rooms for Afghan women. There could be hidden dangers, such as female suicide bombers. Their male colleagues say they are glad to have them.
“We need our sisters as much as we need our brothers to join the army, police and Special Forces -- according to their interest -- and that will help us a lot,” said Agha Sharin Noori, an Afghan Special Forces soldier.
Brigadier General Mohammadzai Khatool is the only woman general in Afghanistan. During the Soviet occupation, she was a paratrooper with over 600 jumps -- but when the Taliban took over she was forced to leave the military and stay at home.
In 2002, after the fall of the Taliban, she was promoted to general. She believes women are an essential part of the military.
“Men and women are like two wings of the one bird. Working together, both are trying to defend their country and their people,” she said.
Seraj agrees. “These women are amongst the bravest in Afghanistan," she said. "I appreciate the first steps that they are taking so much. I wish I could be alive and be around to see them become generals in this country.”
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Women, and I think men will be uncomfortable with this, are the foundation of just about everything. Men bicker, women, who are the guardians of life and culture are the ones who will make a difference. It's true here in Australia where Aborginial women are the glue that keep things together in their cultures (all hundreds of them).
Lets see. The Russians didn't beat them. The US can't seem to beat them. But the women will do it. We'll see if it works.
IEDs shred tissue and bone all the same. The Taliban will make it a point to target their training center. If I were one of these women though, it would be cool to put a couple of rounds into one of these Taliban fighters and as he lay bleeding out, pull that mask down and let him see your face. Just a little last minute shame on his way to his virgin paradise.
*buzzer*
Again with the Low or No Information, Low or No Education Voters.
In October 2001 at great cost (lives) we Won Afghanistan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arxKhJIjIiY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmiyyLNogaY
by the way since the documentary is not out yet, and you will not know since you are Non Participants, the "Angel of Death" was a US Military Woman doing precision Airstrikes against the Taliban, Al Quada, and Islamic Jihadists.
We Won Afghanistan, and while at Northern Iraq eliminating the Taliban, Al Quada, Islamic Jihadists that we chased out of Afghanistan as 2001 Operation Viking Hammer, they combined with the Kurdistanis PKK, HPG, KGK. Before we could eliminate them many fled to southern Iraq to Islamic Sanctuary with the Shia of Southern Iraq, and most fled into Iran and eventually returned to Afghanistan.
The screw up was that Afghanistan being a United Nation's Mission since 2001, NATO, appointed Gentleman British General McColl as the Commander ISAF and he did nothing to stop the hundreds of thousands of Taliban, Al Quada, Islamic Jihadists from returning to Afghanistan from Northern Iraq thru Iran nor from Pakistan to Afghanistan.
And since you have not figured it out yet, who trained the Afghan Special Warfare women.
And your sterotyping women, Lou Leid, is negated by your own Aussie Special Warfare having women also, as trained by your own Aussie Intelligence Agency's "Retired" Special Warfare (your equivalent of the CIA's SAD/SOG). The day you insult one is the day that they hand you your arm ripped out of it's socket, not by strength, but by technique.
remember the afghan girl that just wanted to go to school.she got her nose cut off.after we leave they can call this the nose less brigade.you cant force a religious conversion on people
Yes those australian aboriginal people.... such a societal success story. Not.
Don't Australian women all have some of the lowest levels of self esteem in the world for developed nations? Yep, just googled it. Women in Australia worry most about acceptance from males, have 8 times the number of male sex partners befor 20 than any other nation... oops, guess maybe you are screwed too.
This could be a positive step forward, but did the press need to name names, even if it isn't her real name it is likely someones real name, so they could have just put a target on some unsuspecting woman's back.
Hey Lou Leid this is the 21st century not the 17th century, welcome to the present.
marywhatever way to have faith in your own sex, they are not a foreign occupying force, they are fighting for their homeland, that changes everything.
sounds to me the Australian women are pretty loose . I know where I am going to for my next vacation .
Hey Cliff, its a pretty good deal. They all convince themselves that they are in power by deciding to have sex with different men each night.... funny as hell. Don't tell them men could care less as long as they don't have to work for it or show any respect... the Australian dudes will put a spider in your bed or something for spreading the word to the "powerful" women folk.
Mandy......
You probably should have left OUT the name of the woman.
The Taliban take REVENGE on everyone.
Wow, that's the corporate media's idea of feminism.
Women can go out and get shot and have their legs blown off and kill other people for a corrupt puppet government set up by the U.S.
That's really the corporate idea of women's liberation: that they can be as brutal and fascist as the guys.
You see it in american movies all the time.
Change has to start somewhere! The Taliban suppressed women, Alqaida killed their children, brothers, husbands, fathers without remorse...so who else would you expect to have no remorse for revenge AND be able to search and/or rescue a woman...without violating their religion/culture!
Game On...
ArchStanton, no corporation is making these women do this. They want to. It's an honor for them to defend their country, instead of sitting home under a burka doing whatever their husband tells them to.
I'm against corporations myself, but I think you're wrong here about these gals.
These women are going to absolutely love it when the U.S. troops are gone and the Taliban resume power.
Does anyone recall what the primary use for the Kabul soccer stadium was under the Taliban? I'd wager these women do.
Russia wanted Afganistan for it's own, that's why they didn't succeed. We are removing the muslim extremists and going to leave. Yes we want their oil but we are willing to buy it with money and/or blood. If anything can make the Afgan men fight to keep the extremist out it's their women. Women have ways of making men do things. God help them, ours or theirs.
One Step Further. Women Must Be the Rulers of our world in order to save it. We Men Have Consistently PROVEN our TOTAL lack of Understanding the world Via Our Persistent AND Arrogant Incompetence, World OVERPopulation 7bILLION+. How 'Bout Stop the rape and we "men" can "drop our loads" into a culture glass to understand our Primitive genomes. A Scientific Survey of what a group of Women would do with $10Trillion as compared to a group of Men. results were as Expected. The Women would spend the funds on Health, Education, Infrastructure, POPULATION CONTROL, AN AMERICAN NATIONAL HEALTHCARE SYSTEM WITH PSYCHIATRIC OUTREACH TEAMS, BETTER FOOD AND NUTRITION AND SO ON. Men, On the other hand, would build more Lethal Weapons systems, Corporations Profit Incentives, compressed educational services and LARGER PRISONS......Women MUST Rule; We "Men" need educating esp How to be with a Lady.
Women control the world already have you not been paying attention?
Phantom, historically, the female leaders of the past have done no better nor worse than their male counterparts.
Russia, Great Britain, France... all has these female rulers... it's not a condition of sex, it's a condition of ability and the individual. Contradictory, there have been some superior male rulers in history, well respected by their people.
Kevlar Burkas. Just saying.
Huh? What Lifetime movie fed you that? Guardians of culture? So I guess all the men who have fought for country, lives, freedom etc. weren't fighting to preserve their people's lives and culture? LoL!
Got bad news for all of you... these folks have had thousands of years practice doing something to get something from someone else, then cracking them on the back of the head as they turn their backs and walk away. Its their way. They cheat, lie, and con their way through life to gain an advantage. Anyhow, the bad news is that these women have been marked, and when we are gone, they will be dealt with ... or gone.
Better be careful of the Afghan women.
They will cut you open and place your guts on your chest.
Nancy Pelosi proves your theory to be idiotic every time she opens her lying, greedy, corrupt mouth.
Good luck to these women I suppose, but I'm willing to bet the ways they would torture a woman would make what they do to men look like child's play. Not where I'd want a family member, but to each their own I suppose.
I think it's awesome that they're going against cultural standards because their culture treats women as less important. If you got some insurgent douche that thinks that women are property, then that same dude gets taken out by a chick... Well I'd pay to see that.
take a look at world war 2 pictures of the Philippines.you'll see photos of Filipino women fighters draped over rocks dead with holes in their uniforms around their breasts.the Japanese men didn't take kindly to female combatants
Taliban without Pakistan is not much of a force.
Ironically, Pakistan was invented by the British and is on the map due to US, British, and allies.
Half of the NATO forces deaths are due to the ungrateful and backstabbing Pakis.
"from out of the crowd stepped a young girl of around 14. She grabbed the pole from the fallen flag-bearer, held it up, and called out to her brothers-in-arms to fight to the death."
Time has come for Muslim females to stand up and battle Islamic heroin addict mad nuts!
They can trust that these women are not Taliban sympathizers because the Taliban treat women like slaves. Just like the US civil war, The Union army did have some black soldiers but the Confederate Army did not. The Afghanistan Army can triple its size recruiting women, and US advisers will LOVE to train them without any fear of getting shot in their backs or charged with sexual harassment !!!
actually the confederate army did have black soldiers as well as the first black officers in the u.s. but that's beside the point... Serving in the military has helped minorities break through barriers in this country time and again. It is likely to have a similar effect for the afghan people. I celebrate these women. They demonstrate true courage.
Check you history better. The south did have black soldiers. Some even moved up into higher rank.
V. Nugent
Check your recent history also. Women have been used as suicide bombers for decades.
Are you joking, Nugent? You're projecting a Western mentality onto these women. They are just as likely to be Taliban sympathizers as anything. Women are treated like sh*t all over the Islamic world and the women still defend Islam AND "the culture" AND the men AND the barbaric practices.
Islam is poison.
So is bigotry. I hope you get well soon.
A great number of organized faiths treat women like shyte, Islam is not unique. Which one of those Western religions teaches that women bit from the Tree of Life and brought with her Original Sin, are considered "unclean" for having their monthly cycle, are commanded to submit to their husbands, and are typicially banned from higher clerical service (including roles like, say, Pope)?
It's the extremists that are the poison.
Just like women in the US voted for politicians who claimed that they couldn't get pregnant from rape or enacted legislation enabling state-sponsored rape for women seeking an abortion. And, we like to think that we live in an advanced society.
Before one gets into battles in a place, one should know about the history, religion and people of the place.
Also one should know who the friends and enemies are!!!
If Saudis and Pakis are allies, then one does not need enemies!
Only dumb Bush and his team could get into wars in two toughest battle zones in the world: Afghanistan and Iraq.
Few have held those places for long!
"Though she was shot dead, her rallying cry was seen as the turning point of the 1880 Battle of Maiwand; a triumph for the Afghans, and a devastating loss for British forces during the Second Anglo-Afghan War. Her name was Malalai, Afghanistan’s Joan of Arc."
In the same place, Alexander the Great lost his first battle!
send pigotry and feisty in . they will hug the sin from the evil do'ers. as any democrap knows the terrorist are just misunderstood people that just need a hug !
First of all I am not a Republican. I do however wish you would stop insulting yourself and your Party in such a manner.
Kiss my ass . troll away ya troller !
@ all not knowing
I coulod drop you . as we all know . spineless cowards democraps like you are no threat . hell i could give your MRS. a proper bum slap. and you would do nothing , just act like it never happened . Hell son what you so mad about , the Fact i work hard and could buy and sell your welfare riding ass ?
P.S. i snuck into your house and farted in to your refrigerator and as an added bonus i farted deep into your pillow ....Bonappetit and sleep well !
The funny thing is....you actually believe there is a real difference between the two parties. Greed, lying, hipocricy, etc.... are not just republican traits. Wake up.
@Cliff;
Kiss my ass . troll away ya troller !
Mark the spot, you be all arse to everyone.
@sallysaggyarse
The date was horrible . you are horrible . the sex was horrible .that is why i never called ya back after the first date !
Cliff, please stop making a complete fool of yourself. I seriously doubt Sally would ever be interested in a complete loser like yourself. I have a great idea. Why don't you go kiss Sarah Palin's a$$ again like you have been doing for the last 5 years. While you're at it, call mittens and tell him all about your wet dreams at night about him you self righteous imbecile.
I almost forgot, I have no problem with these brave young women fighting for their freedom. May Allah be with them all and guide them to victory.
Can you fools on the right get any more stupid?
@ chucky
Hell Yeah i would not mind a few rumps with some palin . but as for you chucky . keep stroking it to Obama . now back to the closet with ya .
@ all not knowing .
Get a job ya welfare riding Obama voter
"I almost forgot, I have no problem with these brave young women fighting for their freedom. May Allah be with them all and guide them to victory."
They're not fighting for their freedom. Victory over what? They'll probably be killed by their family when they return home for "dishonoring" their "culture" and Islam.
There is no Allah. There is/was no Mohammed.
This article is a good example of the one-half-of-my-brain-is-dead journalism so rampant in media today regarding Islam.
Get this, morons, these people don't think like us. All of their "struggles" involve nothing but promoting the Islamic agenda either overtly or covertly. They don't care if they die. They don't care who they kill. These women are just as likely to be killed by their "brothers" in arms as the Taliban or their families when they return home. This is presented as some sort of women's rights progress. It isn't. It's just another mind f*ck by Muslims that we're stupid enough to believe.
Islam is poison.
The second you said you said there was no Mohammed, I knew that you didn't know history. The second you said there was no Allah, I knew you didn't know religion.
Islam states categorically that they worship the same God as the Jews and Christians do. You may not believe in who they promote, but damn, let the people be, would you? If every Muslim was out to destroy you, I promise that you would be dead by now. It's a matter of counting, really. So grow up and stop spending time badmouthing people you don't know.
" ... Can you fools on the right get any more stupid? ... "
Why yes. Yes I think that they can. Just give them a minute or two.
MikeO76: We are only followers.
Our leaders, Bushes, McCains, Netanyahus, Hillarys, Kerry, Holder (Kim Sing or Song) will come after us to show how stupid leaders can be!
It must be Female History Month. Ridiculous.
Bravo! I think we just caught up with them, didn't we? - RC
I bet they are more trustworthy then the male soldiers.
Why would you say that?
One good thing about the great Internet Era: mass media was flooded with all kind of "news", which now being in digital format don't have an ecological impact! Other than that, in terms of news, it is a lot of ... caca.
I come from the BC era, (Before Computers) and we had people like Walter Cronkite, Douglas Edwards, and Edward R. Morrow reporting things to us and they double checked everything to make sure it was a truthful as possible before they would say it. Now I have to read and listen to all the BS to piece togather the truth. I really miss the days of straight up News now I have to put togaather a Jig Saw Puzzle to get one fact truthfully. The truthis being Clouded by"Ratings".
Too bad most today don't have the cognative skills to do that, or are just too lazy to.
Defintion of Fact - Experience or Observations.
Defintion of Opinion - a personal view, attitude, or appraisal without knowledge, thought, or reason.
By Observations (Definition of Fact), this is especially true of the Majority of the Young without actual Experience, and pertaining to Military Matters, only 1% of US Citizens currently Serving in the US Military; as the 92% of US Citizens that Never Served have no Firsthand Experience in Military Matters.
David, my brother, do you know anything else other than searching the internet for definitions?
As for using the cognitive skills to make sense of all this caca on the internet, why bother? caca+caca always equals...a bigger caca.
Nico75
Because even caca has a few kernels of truth.
david-475776
I think the real problem is that today when you tell someone what they WANT to hear they don't care whether it is the truth or not.
" ... when you tell someone what they WANT to hear they don't care whether it is the truth or not. ... "
DING! DING! DING!
We have ourselves a WINNER!!!! Johnnie, tell this person what they've won .......
Why do the Definitions apply to you, during my post in response to 6dogs and not you Nico75.
Answered by Backcountry164
Example of Cognitive Reasoning Skills to determine the Facts by Researching MORE information and verifying each and every part of the information, including creating a Causative Timeline:
Clinton takes responsibility in Benghazi attack
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/23/16660298-clinton-takes-responsibility-in-benghazi-attack-clashes-with-republicans?lite
The Facts from the Statement of SOS Clinton.
1. "Algerian terrorists", the Algerian Terrorists were actually the same as the "Libyan Rebels" as Ansar Al Shariah, supported by President Obama to Murder US Ally President Gaddaffi, as Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), etc..
2. "have weapons they obtained from depots in Libya". One of the Strategic Goals of Ansar Al Shariah while attacking Libya from Egypt after President Obama allowed US Ally Egypt to fall into the hands of the Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood, as trained by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds, at the Autonomous Kurdistanis Region, and arrived at Alexandria Egypt along with the other Holy Warriors of Islam as the previous "Peace Flotillas". The Real Reason that the "Libyan Civil War" started at Benghazi was the Holy Warriors of Islam needed to attack and get the Decades of weapons and ammunition from the Hight Razma Libyan Military Depot at Benghazi to attack the rest of Africa.
Also known, the Holy Warriors of Islam seized 20,000 portable shoulder launched anti aircraft SA-7 missiles, with Al Quada's stated intent of shooting down US Commerial Aircraft "To Cripple the US Economy". Censored out of the US News Media, reported by the BBC, Le Monde, Das Bild, Arabic Al Jezeera, etc. that the Mission of the CIA at the US Consulate Benghazi was to locate the 20,000 SA-7 anti aircraft missiles.
3. Due to President Obama's Failed Foriegn Policies the Loss of the Iraqis Oil to the Allies of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, the Chinese and Russian Federation got the Iraqis Oil that could have paid for the US and US Allies Liberation of Iraq with Decades to Centuries of Iraqis Oil; this loss made the Libyan Oil of Strategic Importance to the US European Allies, same with the Resources at Algeria (Eni France).
4. dictator Moammar Gadhafi was toppled. The stated intent of the Holy Warriors of Islam as stated by the Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations was to Murder US Ally President Gaddaffi the Collaborator to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers, as by Death Penalty Fatawa, "All Collaborators to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers Must Die a Horrible Murdering to Dwell in that Firey Place" - current Islamic Laws, related to Suras of Holy Koran. It was SOS Condeleezza Rice that negotiated the terms for President Gaddaffi to become a US Ally, and the lifting of previous US And UN Sanctions and Embargoes.
The Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations was extremely pissed at US Ally President Gaddaffi for his Libyan Military being successful at killing a lot of the Holy Warriors of Islam (Al Quada, Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, Hezbollah, etc.). And by doing this the Holy Warriors of Islam were stuck fighting at US Ally Libya, instead of spreading to other African Nations.
So from all of the above, Nico75, what do we know based on what SOS Clinton stated.
1. Libya was a US Ally. US Ally President Gaddaffi was NOT A "Dictator" (his Green Book Contract of Rights to Libya Citizens as praised by the United Nations and the UA (African Union) Civil Rights Commissions). That US Citizens believed the propaganda of President Obama's Illegal Unfunded Violation of US Law, 1973 War Powers Resolution, that limits and restricts the Presidential War Powers. Further Research indicates the US Laws with US Congressional Appropriations that covered President Clinton's and President Bush's arses with Afghanistan and Iraq being 100% Legal and 100% Funded.
2. That the President's Own Executive Intelligence Agency, the CIA, still has not located the 20,000 SA-7 Anti Aircraft Missiles.
3. That the "Libyan Rebels" supported by President Obama have been and are still killing US Citizens and US Allies Citizens Worldwide. And that it was President Obama's Reelection "Osama Bin Laden is Dead, GM is Alive" that incited Ansar Al Shariah to attack the US Consulate at Benghazi, as the Islamic World's response to President Obama's "Osama Bin Laden is Dead, GM is Alive" was "Obama Declared War Against Muslims (Islam)", "Obama, Obama, We Are All Osama". Ansar Al Islam planned the attack on the US Consulate to coincide with the Greatest Defeat of the Great Satan, the 9/11 2001 Attacks, as done by their Greatest Holy Warrior of Islam Superstar Osama Bin Laden.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udSEcQbM308
See the white banner on the tower, that English, Ansar Ashariaa, is Ansar Al Shariah, same as the Libyan Rebels, including the flags that they are waving. Again the President Obama Propaganda, Defeat of Al Quada, got them on the run, or the belief that there are only hundreds of Al Quada (see the link above and tell me when you get tired of counting them). The "Libyan Rebels" moved from Libya to Tunisia to attack Algeria and later Mali using the weapons they got from Libya.
4. That the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran wants to control and needs the sources of Uranium at Africa.
And why did I even bother, to find out the Facts; because it was our arses that were sent in before the FBI arrived at Libya. A completely different perspective when it is your arse that might get killed due to not knowing the basic Facts.
That would be this:
http://money.msn.com/investing/11-things-wrong-with-congress
Best post of the day. We helped kill probably one of the most foreward looking leaders in Qaddafi. Now Libya will devolve into a total @!$%#hole.
I have said it before and I will say it again,,, some of the baddest asses I have ever met in the service of our Beloved Country ( America) have been women. One that I knew during trainning had a tat that say,,,, Underestmate me, so I can destroy you! Never take one thats been trained for granted. Hell hath no fury, like a woman with an automatic weapon
Devoting a substantial part of our defense budget to training and helping to maintain female U.N. peacekeeping forces throughout the Third World specifically dedicated to halt violence against women and safeguard the nurture and education of all children is probably the only way that the world's conflicts will ever be resolved. Providing nurture and safety in the home also promotes economic stability, since women with children, of necessity, are also the main family breadwinners.
But the fact that they have male superiors limits the amount of good they could do. It's still a good ol' boys club that at the first hint of dissension, they go away by being disbanded, or worse, set up.
A prelude or hint that we should have elite women's combat special forces team here?.................Just saying.
Plus we could have sex with em for fun or when there is a lag in the battle
Just because you don't know, does not make something so, as did not or has not happened.
Ask yourself, who trained the Afghan Special Warfare; and who trained the Afghan Special Warfare women. (and before you even think it, the Afghan Special Warfare men did not train the Afghan Special Warfare women initally).
During the US Military Training Teams to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars, rotated to Operation Cyclone; knowing that at Islamic Nations only women deal with women; my women trained the Iraqis Women Combat Support Units and then lead them into Combat. When the Iranians broke through the Iraqis Combat Unit lines, the Iraqis Women Combat Support Units did not run, they fought or died.
They will rip your sh!t off by the roots and save it for later as a dildo, they don't need you spurting all over the place making a mess or getting them pregnant.
@daterape david
that your opinion . how do you know they don't want some of the cliffster ! ? !
hell I cum with American citizenship ! I am a real catch for some unibrow ,hairy legged afghany chick ! just ask your mom !
Cheers Norm and Cliff
http://mimg.ugo.com/201012/8/4/7/134748/cuts/cheers-norm-cliff_528x297.jpg
Yep Cliff every woman's dream (nightmare).
I did long distance telephone call to my Mom and she asked your Mom why you still live with your Mom.
@long distance david
I guess you called long distance on your beloved " Obama phone " . nothing to good for you as long as you not paying for it huh ! lol
@cliffster - (snicker)
"I am a real catch for some unibrow ,hairy legged afghany chick !"
Just a quick search is all it takes to show the world what a sexist, racist, bigoted Jacka$$ you really are.
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A bit older than me but she is one very pretty Cougar.
h-ttp://www.jeffshea.com/photos/large/Afghan,AfghanGirl,2002.jpg
Probably 3 or 4 years younger than me but her pretty skin, raven hair, lovely face and amazingly beautiful eyes are beyond borders and prejudice.
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Just plain lovely and lady like.
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The above is a TuTu............To old for me and WAAAY to HOT for you.
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Just a little doll by any standards. Any guy that wouldn't want to have her as his daughter is just plain mean and evil.
Bottom line is just like any culture there are beautiful people everywhere. What matters is whats in their hearts as that beauty shines eternal and never fades if nurtured and cared for.
The heartbreaking part is all of the pictures of the injured, and the girls that have been intentionally disfigured by those that practice violence and hate in the name of a higher power.
Regards,
Brandon
@Cliffster - aka Hamster Boy
"Plus we could have sex with em for fun or when there is a lag in the battle"
So says the guy wearing the "Will Get Queer For Beer" t-shirt - LOLZ
@2slow4u
but the real Question that matters most my friend is , Do they put out ?
@cliffy,
"but the real Question that matters most my friend is , Do they put out ?"
That shouldn't matter to you any way Pansy-Boy.
Maybe you should ask their CHOSEN mate that question. I'm pretty sure one of them will hand you your "Junk" when you do.
Regards,
Brandon
BTW - Are you dating Bobster - 1557895. The two of you sissy-boy trolls talk alot alike.
@2slow4u
Hell sunshine in the time it took you to reply , I rented your moms mouth and arse out to 6 illegal mexicans for a few taco bell coupons . and for you to rent her off of me again , i will no longer take any of your checks . In god we trust , but you have to pay cash from now on !
well you all have a blessed day , I am outta here . see ya all monday hey 2fast4u . Fack you!!!!! roflmao buh bye
" ... I am a real catch for some unibrow ,hairy legged afghany chick ... "
See. I told you if you gave them a minute they could/would show you just how much more stupid they could be. And here it is.
Give them/him another minute and they/he will lower that bar for you yet again.
How Trendy, Just like the election of OOOHBLAHMA
Now we can claim a victory in Afganistan, we have given them diversity. LOL
Hey, MORE Afgans killin the Tali's LOVE it
Bring OUR TROOPS HOME and let the women take over
The men love having them, send the women in first, if nobody shoots them, or, nothing blows up, it might be safe. Contrary to all the action movies, there is little, to no, hand to hand, a woman can shoot you just as well as anybody.
Contrary to your no experience, or the President Obama Reelection Campaign Lie "Less Horses and Bayonets".
In October 2001 during the fierce Urban Warfare at the Afghan Cities, regardless of only carrying ammunition, we ran out. It did get down to bayonets to kill the Taliban, Al Quada, Islamic Jihadists to take their AKs, SVDs, RPGs, to stay alive. Almost like United Nation's Mission Somalia II, Operation Continue Hope, except we had no where to run.
Today we use more Horses, Pack Horses, Pack Mules to conduct US Military Asymmetric Mountain Warfare. 2/3rds of Afghanistan is the PamirMountains. If you are with the 101, you have seen us come in for resupply at FOB/COB Eagle; gawking at our women, and the fact that we are using horses, pack horses, and pack mules.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arxKhJIjIiY
Go ahead and believe President Obama. And call Vice President Biden, 5th Special Forces Group, 10th Special Forces Group, CIA's SAD/SOG, USAF STTs, USMC MARSOC, USN SEALsliars (the other US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces were there also, just not mentioned, example see the USAF O-3 in the link below).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmiyyLNogaY
How about this james-101st, you do what I did, grow up from the "Infant ry" (101st Airborne Division (Air Assault)), qualify to become US Army Special Forces, 5th Group with their Area of Responsibility being the "Middle East". Maybe years from then you can be assessed to us, after you survive enough operational experience.
Yo "Snake Eatin Lifer" 3/9/13 That's the nick name we Draftees gave the S F at Ft. Bragg back in the day. & yes we would tussle w. the S F in Fayetteville then we would turn around & buy each other a cold beer.
This Ole ParaTrooper sincerely values the written opinion of Iraq & Afghanistan Veterans above all other Opinions. You have EARNED THIS opportunity to speak. We need to Hear MORE from these Veterans & learn the Truth about Afghanistan.
May All of Our Troops COME HOME ALIVE & WELL & SOON,VERY SOON
May GOD BE WITH THEM & KEEP THEM SAFE !
SPW in Alaska Drafted July 1969 Airborne All the Way
David ate one too many snakes.
I Praise these women for their "courage" to go against the wrong and to fight for the right. American women pulled together for our American men during WWII...doing jobs at home that men did but had to go into battle....we built airplanes and did alot of things that the men did to pull up the slack. I praise these women for going into battle in knowing what can happen to them as women. But I guess they are tired of being knocked down by their own kind and being treated wrong and badly....God Bless them!!!
Well, it appear that the Afghan women have more courage than the men and Obama!
@ED
Really ED, you think that, huh? I guess that is to be expect from the low informed lap dogs of the GOP base. What other stupid wisdom do you have to wish to share with people, so they can see you are a nice little poodle? arf arf...
SallyAnn have you been to A'stan or Iraq and seen the men fight. They would more enjoy washing each other's feet and smoking. They like their women but they love their boys.
@sad sad sally
I love how the libtards talk about low informed voters and then say the GOP ! all welfares riders like you vote democrap. cause you get a GUBMINT check . democrap voters are the lowest informed / educated voters .90% of yas don't even know what a belt is for . thats why ya pants hang down past ya arses .
Way to go Afghan women, I hope you shoot every TaliBastard full of holes!! Fight for your right to live as a basic Human Being!!!!
The Taliban and all the other women-oppressers in the Middle East deserve to be blown into oblivion. I have always thought it would be great if all the women in those oppressive countries could just LEAVE. After cutting off certain male parts, of course...
OK people...one more time. Explain to me, WITHOUT hyperbole, exactly how the addition of women in combat and especially Special Forces make our military better?
Once this question has been answered, I think I can get onboard with the whole whoop-de-doo that surrounds this issue every time it comes up...
Because women can do everything that men can.
Well, that answer should satisfy all inquiring minds...
The problem with putting women and children in combat is that if you did have a foe that showed mercy to women and children and old folks in the past they will no longer because they are potential combatants and you will have entire villages wiped out. Putting women and children into combat is a last act of desperation, it has nothing to do with equality.
I can't believe that MSNBC buy's to all this rhetoric.
The Women and Children are beeing killed by the terrorists for centuries, it is about time they (the women) realized that they might as well fight since not fighting was getting them killed anyway.
The only reason MSNBC put it here is because they want to push for political change here. The Afgan women histroy is totally different.
Being killed in war is not a criterion for someone making a decent soldier...besides, soldiers do not fight to defend themselves. They fight to serve their country.
Propaganda of the occupiers provide this show , which is contrary to Afgan culture and beliefs. When the occupiers are gone , things will get back to normal. We may even stop endless wars for lack of money-how about that ?
What are we doing in A'stan again? Mission accomplished and Detroit is alive and Osama is dead (not sure which of these are true. Regardless we are wasting more and more of the precious taxpayers dollars. Money can't buy you love or friends.
I am proud of these women. They know the danger and proceed anyway. I just hope one day the women will beable to take their mask off, so they can get all the credit they deserve.
The hope is the people will like their new freedoms enough that they want to keep them. Something we are looseing here in the US. Were we are great at giving others freedoms away, at the notion of getting more for others. Also it doesn't take much money to start wars, All the killing in Africa, and the middle east are prime examples. Just enough to buy a AK47.
@ david-475776:
I'm sorry to say, but the US has NOT won Afghanistan. Saying anything to the contrary just highlights your jingoistic stupidity.
Strangely progressive of the Afghan military, I hope that it works for them.
Prgressive has nothing to do with it. The women fill a nich that the men can't. It is need, not political, that made this change. Now they can do more through searches.
Yea they look good with all that American Gear .M4's Look its a afgan bitch in a Kevlar mitch.
Great move ! from the burkas to the killing machines. That's what you get when you piss off women ! So proud of you girls !!!!
That comment is just so twisted on so many levels....this is combat, not girl-power...
Awww, does that bother your ME sensibilities? Overcoming their pernicious culture and worse religion makes this GIRL POWER!
I think the women in Afghanistan should carry an AK 47 under their Burqa and when the men try to #@$%$# with them they can blow their B---s off. This would stop the mistreatment of women overnight because the men would never know when women would unload on them.
Haha, nice try. You people should take a minute to consider that being sent into combat is not some sort of twisted privilege. It's actually, believe it or not, not a good thing. And I wonder how many of these Muslim Afghan women would agree that the Afghan culture is "pernicious" and Islam is worse than pernicious. It's interesting how you can be a bigot and progressively feminist at the same time.
Celebrating the fact these people possibly dying horribly is not something I would consider a positive...but hey, let them take the bullet for your stand.
Marywhatever... what the heck are you talking about? They are talking about Afghan women, not US women! It's just like saying maybe Afghans can beat themselves!
This is why more and more countries hate America. The problem with idiot leaders in America today is that our forefathers left those countries not to try and rebuild them here but to create a land where all rich people were free and had slaves.
Corporate profit goes up and the Stock Market goes up and the peoples salaries go down. How far down do you think it has to go down before you are considered a slave?
Hyperbole. You're paid for your work, however paltry a sum that may be, and if you want to better your situation, you are free to leave. No one will come after you with dogs and guns.
Think about what slavery must have actually been like before crying "woe is us".