Faced with gun-toting drug smugglers, Arizona ranchers demand security at the border

Wave after wave of Mexican drug and immigrant smugglers are crossing into the U.S., passing through the Arizona border where nearby ranchers say they feel unprotected by their own government. NBC's Mark Potter reports.

By Mark Potter, NBC News correspondent

ARIVACA, Ariz. --  Just before nightfall, 73-year-old rancher Jim Chilton hikes quickly up and down the hills on his rugged cattle-grazing land south of Tucson, escorting two U.S. Border Patrol agents.  

He wants to show them the disturbing discovery he made earlier in the day: a drug-smugglers' camp on his private property.  Stacked together under a stand of trees are blankets, jackets, food, water, binoculars and bales of marijuana from Mexico wrapped in burlap. The smugglers, themselves, are nowhere in sight and are believed to have fled the area, which is about 10 miles north of the Mexican border.

Rancher Jim Chilton shows what's left of a drug smugglers camp on his ranch.

"The druggers outrageously use my land at will," said Chilton, who frequently finds evidence of smugglers on his land -- well-worn trails, cut fences, discarded water bottles, clothing and shoes. His home has been burglarized twice and he is constantly on the lookout for armed smuggling groups while he and his employees round up cows on his remote land.

"Can you imagine riding your horse through here on your own land and running into a guy with an AK-47 and 20 or 30 guys behind him dressed in camouflage and carrying drugs?," he asked.

Hidden cameras in southern Arizona captured footage of armed drug smugglers in 2012.

Like living ‘in a no-man’s land’

The land where Chilton raises his cattle covers 50,000 acres south of the small town of Arivaca, Ariz.  About five miles of his property runs along the international border, where all that separates Mexico from the United States in most areas there is a four-strand barbed-wire fence. Chilton owns some of the land outright, but leases most it from the state and federal governments for cattle grazing.

Mark Potter / NBC News

Ranchers Jim and Sue Chilton in Arivaca, Ariz., say drug smugglers use their land frequently, and their home has been burglarized twice.

He and his wife, Sue Chilton, complain they feel caught in the middle between the Mexican drug and immigrant smugglers and the United States Border Patrol, which the Chiltons and other ranchers accuse of concentrating most of its patrols and checkpoints miles north of the border, far beyond where the ranchers live and work.

"It's like living in a no-man's land. The Border Patrol doesn't really protect us, they try to arrest people north of us," said Chilton.  "I think the druggers should be stopped at the United States border. They shouldn't be allowed into this country. The Border Patrol should secure the border at the border."

Ranchers Jim and Sue Chilton live on the U.S.-Mexico border where drug smugglers constantly walk across their property.

Jeffrey Self, who heads the U.S. Customs and Border Protection joint field command in Arizona, said it is not fair to characterize the area as a "no-man's land."  He conceded, though, that Arizona ranchers are correct when they report Mexican drug and immigrant smugglers crossing their land.

"Yes, there is traffic out on those ranch lands. Communities continue to be impacted to a certain extent,” he said.  “But you can't discount the fact that gains have been made over the course of the last few years.”

Jeffrey Self, head of the U.S. Customs and Border Protection joint field command in Arizona, says a lot of gains have been made at border protection, but acknowledges more is needed.

With 5,500 Border Patrol agents assigned to Arizona, double the amount stationed there in 2004, Self argued that much more territory is being patrolled now than in the past.  And he said daily surveillance flights and advances in camera and sensor technology have also helped dramatically reduce the number of illegal border crossings. 

"If you look back to 2000…there were 610,000 aliens arrested in Arizona,’ Self said.  “Just look at last year, we came in at 119,000." 

Over the past decade, however, there has been a dramatic rise in the amount of illegal drugs smuggled from Mexico into Arizona.  The Border Patrol there seized about one million pounds of marijuana during each of the last several years -- about four times the amount seized in 2000. Other illicit drugs, such as heroin and meth, are also entering Arizona in greater quantities than ever before.

‘He came out screaming’

For neighboring rancher David Beckham the problem is even more severe.  Earlier this year he made the painful decision to move himself, his wife and three boys away from their ranch, which sits about 12 miles north of the Mexican border.

Arizona rancher David Beckham says drug smugglers crossing his land forced him to move his family.

"It's not safe, it’s not safe for my kids," he said.  The Beckhams have had numerous run-ins on their land with Mexican smugglers.

Their cattle fences are frequently cut and paths heading north from Mexico cross their property.  Beckham says a smuggler even fired shots at him while he walked his land with a U.S. Border Patrol agent.  Several illegal border crossers have also approached his house at night--one even reaching his hand into their bathroom window.

"Several years ago, one of my children was taking a shower and had a gentleman reach into the shower while he was in there, and he came out screaming, absolutely refusing to take a shower for the next couple months."

The Beckhams, like the Chiltons, scoff at the Obama administration’s claims the U.S.-Mexican border is safer than ever. 

"It's a joke, they can believe what they want. They can live in candy land," said Beckham. "You can't have a safe and secure country without a safe and secure border, and we don't have it. We don't."

Sue Chilton says she believes a U.S. government decision to not to heavily patrol right along the border is, in effect, creating a free-access zone for Mexican smugglers.

"We have, without any reason or logic to it, decided to cede as much as 15 or 20 miles of the United States to the cartels, and we live in that section that has been ceded," she said.  "They have lookouts in the mountains within a mile of our house."

Several advocacy groups concerned about border security have placed motion-activated hidden cameras near the Chilton's ranch and elsewhere in southern Arizona.  Their videos, many of them shot recently, confirm the ranchers' complaints, revealing wave after wave of drug and immigrant smuggling groups, sometimes heavily armed, crossing U.S. land miles north of the Mexican border. 

"First, it's a threat to our life," said Chilton. "Second, it's a threat to our livelihood."

Border Patrol: agents more thorough than ever

As to the complaint the Border Patrol places most of its patrols and checkpoints miles north of the border fence, Jeffrey Self of the Customs and Border Protection’s joint field command in Arizona said agents are assigned where they will be most effective in apprehending smugglers and illegal immigrants. 

"I would get less out of putting those agents on the line than having them operate those checkpoints," He said.  

Still, many agents do patrol the border fence, he said, and are "in and around those ranchers every day, 365 days a year."  Serious problems stemming from distance and budgets, however, do hamper some daily Border Patrol operations.  Agents stationed in Tucson have to drive as many as two hours a day just to reach parts of the remote and rugged border.  And a spokesperson confirmed that a Border Patrol FOB (Forward Operating Base), built west of the Chilton ranch, is currently unmanned because there isn't enough money to pay agents' overtime fees. The FOB was built to house agents day and night right at the border near Sasabe, Ariz., and to reduce the current drive times.  

Nevertheless, Self said, his agents are doing a better, more thorough job than ever. 

"Is there still traffic coming across [ranchers’] property?  Absolutely.  Do we want them to feel safe in their homes?  Absolutely.  We're going to work toward that effort."

Drug smugglers move through Arizona in this footage captured by hidden cameras in 2012.

Ranchers describe smugglers as ‘desperate’

The Chiltons, Beckhams and other ranchers in southern Arizona give high marks to the Border Patrol agents, themselves, respecting the dangerous work they do and appreciating their willingness to help property owners in need. 

The complaint they have is with where those agents are assigned.  The ranchers also believe, as do many of the agents, themselves, that smugglers crossing the border now are more heavily armed and confrontational than in years past.

"They seem to be a lot more desperate.  The people coming across now are different, they are not friendly," said Beckham.

Surveying her ranchland, Sue Chilton described what happens when smugglers walk close to their house at night:  "We turn out the lights, Jim gets his guns and we sit somewhere in the dark in the middle of the house where we are not close to our window and wait for the action to be finished."

Her husband, Jim, who comes from several generations of ranchers, said he has never seen the border as dangerous as it is now.

"It's outrageous. I'm a citizen of the United States.  I expect to be protected like everybody else," he said.  "The border is not secure, it is worse than it's ever been."

 

 

 

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Seems like Cheney passed the problem onto Obama.During the Cheney administration, the border was an open invitation..Unless you build a fence 30 ft up and 20 feet below grade and station the soldier every 100ft along the 2400 mile border drugs and illegals we cross the border.

The Obama administration has deported over 475,000 illegals,vastly greater than what the Cheney administration did during that administration.

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Reply#26 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:59 PM EST

BS, Obama armed them.

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#26.1 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:07 PM EST

Bill: Let me tell you the truth. I live here and KNOW what is really going on.

Drug mules come across my land nightly. (As they do all along the border). They meet with American drug dealers and transfer their load. Then they throw their back-packs into the brush. I find hundreds on my land.

The mules then walk up onto the road and get arrested and recieve a free ride back to Mexico, where they can load up for another trip.

obama then takes the credit for deporting these thousands of drug smugglers.

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#26.2 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:08 PM EST

I'm a little confused the administration claims the best results ever concerning the border,yet the people living there say it's the worse it's been in generations. Somebody must be telling stories.Or is the administration just going with the intelligence they have at the moment........again.

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#26.3 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:17 PM EST

OC: Now that's really funny. When you those two words in the same sentence. "administration and intelligence"

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#26.4 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:43 PM EST

Those ER ( expedited removal ) numbers by Obama are cooked as hell. One Illegal Alien gets turned back 20 times in a month and he counts as 20 deportations. Trust me, I know this first hand.

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#26.5 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:38 PM EST
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And a bunch of azz-oles up north are demanding I get rid of my guns.

I wish I could afford an AR-15 and some 30 round clips.

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Reply#27 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:01 PM EST

take money from the "bloated defense budget"????? Look around the world and leave the money where it is. How about stop funding the "illegals education, health care and jail stays" and use that money. Let alone the Child Tax Credit loophole that gave 8 billion in taypayer refunds to ILLEGALS last year.

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Reply#28 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:06 PM EST

The so called rights of the illegals are far more important to the Obama administration than protecting these hard working American citizens. After all. Not only do these people get firearms from Obama, they vote for him as well.

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Reply#29 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:06 PM EST

I know right. And it isn't just Obama, it is the libs too.

In an earlier post someone said that the landowner chose to live there and that the citizens of the US should not be responsible for protecting the borders and that the land owner should move!

Amazing how Obama wants to take guns away from US citizens but he is handing them out to the Mexican criminals.

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#29.1 - Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:46 AM EST
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Feds don't care.

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Reply#30 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:12 PM EST

Yeah whats a little armed incursion amoung neighbors? Of course you better not walk into Mexico with a gun.

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#30.1 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:20 PM EST
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I have a great idea: Let's send all of the NRA's "good guys" down to the borders and they can take all of their guns out of our communities and use them down there----on the drug smugglers. That way our communities will be gun free----drug free and all of those "good guys with guns" will really be able to use their guns to shoot people. As a bonus we will have no more mass shootings. This is a much better idea than pouring guns into our schools. Come on NRA, get with the program.

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Reply#31 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:23 PM EST
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I have a better idea, Prancer. How about you go pound sand in your dumb azze head.

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#31.1 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:40 PM EST

How about you go pound sand in your dumb azze head.

Tactical111, you are suspended for a day for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.

Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

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#31.2 - Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:31 PM EST
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Ditto Heads,No way to stop it..As long as the demand is there, the mules will deliver the goods.

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Reply#32 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:29 PM EST

If I lived there I would put bear traps around my property {house} every night.

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Reply#33 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:31 PM EST

Can't. It's against the law for one thing. And the border patrol is also sneaking around there at night.

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#33.1 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:37 PM EST
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do like we did in nam---dig lots of pits with the stakes and rattle snakes for the "druggies", maybe the word would get around "DON'T GO NEAR THAT CRAZY GRINGO'S PLACE"

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Reply#34 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:36 PM EST

The solution is twofold.

Legalize marijuana.

Legalize summary executions in the field for criminal illegal aliens.

PROBLEM SOLVED.

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Reply#35 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:36 PM EST

Or build huge, cheap tent jails for druggies and end the demand.

PROBLEM SOLVED !

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#35.1 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:39 PM EST

Popeye

Once pop is legalized, they won't be profiting much, because it can then be grown in the states. So the cartels will lose money and will have to find another way to make it. They will then bring harder drugs over to make their money. It won't stop. It will only get worse. But I understand you can't think clearly because you have messed up your brain on mj.

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#35.2 - Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:53 AM EST
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If Obama can't protect our State Dept personnel in Lybia what makes you think as an average "John Doe" American citizen, he would or could possibly protect you or anyone along the Mexican border. Has he done anything besides spending money to put up a fence? Nope! I feel sorry for you guys on the borders. You are pretty much on your own and just hope a "Fast and Furious" weapon isn't used against you.

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Reply#36 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:40 PM EST

If Bush couldn't protect us on 9/11 how much chance is there when he had detailed intel reports of imminent attacks.

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#36.1 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:15 PM EST
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yes the arizona cattleman.(m0st destructive of all invaseive species ) want complete protection from abservation on the land they do not own but are doing more damage to than all the so called illegals combined,I also mention that only the treaty of guadalupe hidalgo gives these destroyers of our wild life.and habitat any tight i mention that since since this treaty has never been complied with,and is invalid If this dispute winds up in the world coudrt. in geneva it will be the ranchers,and other az. residents who have to leave stolen land not the mexicans who arnt even allowed to walk across thier own land

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Reply#37 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:42 PM EST

Those "Mexicans" are hauling illegal drugs and could be arrested on either side of the border. Also murder is illegal in Mexico too. My neighbor was recently murdered by a drug mule.

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#37.1 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:49 PM EST

Now you're confused horten Arizona is not Mexican land.

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#37.2 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:50 PM EST

Its the mj he has been smokin' lol

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#37.3 - Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:55 AM EST

The treaty of Guadalupe did not give the former mexican lands to American land owners Horten, however after the treaty was signed many many many of the former Mexican families were cheated out of their property.

    #37.4 - Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:47 PM EST
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    The government has the constitutional duty to "provide for the common defense." A complaint like this from a US citizen, on US soil, facing a threat from a foreign country must be responded to by any force necessary to remove the threat. Any other response implies that the rancher's property is no longer part of United States sovereign territory.

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    Reply#38 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:43 PM EST

    On reflection, this might ultimately prove to be a good thing: if the government in Washington DC cedes sovereignty over significant portions of a state, then that state would have a legitimate rationale to declare its independence.

    If the new nation-state of Arizona then returns to the founding principles we started with in 1776, I would move there in a heartbeat.

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    #38.1 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:16 PM EST
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    @oo-bama 3 of the four battles you cited as reasons for asstyault rifles were initiated by the Texans. You are just too blood thirsty to own a rubber band let alone a gun.Maybe after you learn to respect other's property rights

      Reply#39 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:48 PM EST

      I would hire some old vets like my self. We have got IDIOTS runing our goverment. And it not going to get better.

      SAD SAD SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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      Reply#40 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:54 PM EST

      The Ranchers in Arizona want more Border Security? Are they kidding? How can we protect the Borders of Iraq, Afghanistan, South Korea, Japan, All of Europe, Canada, etc. etc. etc. and protect the Border in Arizona too?? Quit talking Foolishness Ranchers. Don't you know our Government welcomes Illegall Immigrants no matter what their Occupation is?

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      Reply#41 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:59 PM EST

      Arm every rancher and back them up with more border patrols. Heck, let them keep as many 50 round clips as they want.

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      Reply#42 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:02 PM EST

      The illegals crossing the border now aren't looking for work. We don't have any. Their reason for coming is to bring drugs, to the American druggies. They are armed and are ready to defend their drugs. Those that lose their loads, will also lose their lives.

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      Reply#43 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:06 PM EST

      I would have to be living this nightmare to know what I would do for shure,but my thoughts now would be to meet the force with force.As a former military person I would have to try.

      • 6 votes
      Reply#44 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:07 PM EST

      Shut the fk up...get your own Guns and blow the mthrfkrs up!! dig a ditch with a back hoe and bury the illegal fks!!!

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      Reply#45 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:08 PM EST

      The trick is to be better armed and in greater numbers. He should invite all of his gun buddies over and have an evening of target practice. Problem solved.

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      Reply#46 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:12 PM EST

      We have a right to defend our families. Get Automatics, Set booby traps and make sure to send a message in unison that drug smugglers need to be stopped at the border. The stone deaf Obama regime will wake up after a few of the smuggler terrorists are shot at the border on private land.

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      Reply#47 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:13 PM EST

      So now illegals are just streaming thru AZ with no oversight at all? We sure get what we ask for.....and how those ranchers sleep at nite is beyond me. What happened to the war on drugs?

      Why is the mexican border such an ongoing issue? Why can't we just protect our own borders, using the military, national guard, a special border force, WHATEVER.

      Can't we do anything right?????

      Geeezzzz........these impotent politicians are getting hopeless....

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      Reply#48 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:13 PM EST

      ALL and I mean ALL of our Politicians want the Mexican vote now and won't do anything to upset them. Hell our next President is going to be a Mexican.

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      #48.1 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:31 PM EST

      Because our government don't care about home, only foreign soil. They will protect other countries and spend billions of dollars, but US citizens on the border is sol.

      No wonder the people of the other countries think we are trying to take over their countries since we show more concern for country than our own.

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      #48.2 - Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:58 AM EST
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      Well, you know, it costs money to post more Border Patrols. More Border Patrols, more taxes to pay for them. You want government small enough to drown in a bathtub? You want lower taxes (without cutting the Defense budget)? Then everything else gets smaller. Simple math.

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      Reply#49 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:13 PM EST

      How come our 700 military bases around the world don't get smaller?? Close just two of those bases and we would have enough money to Really Guard the Mexican Border.

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      #49.1 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:33 PM EST

      You know you can pull those people from other countries and place them here instead, right? Who is more important?

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      #49.2 - Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:01 AM EST
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      Well, I guess we'd better lower taxes some more to pay for the added security.

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      Reply#50 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:15 PM EST

      touche'

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      #50.1 - Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:16 PM EST

      I wonder if Arizona Tumbleweed and the rest of the ranchers would support cutting $1B from the DOD budget and moving it to the Border Patrol? Let's find out where their priorities really are.

        #50.2 - Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:20 AM EST

        Hell yes, but I would cut Ten Billion Dollars from the defense budget instead of One Billion. There is so much damned waste in that budget it's disgusting. But we could also cut the Billions we give Egypt, Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, and the rest of the worthless Damned countries we give money to. There is enough money to protect our Borders the way they should be protected, but we are throwing that money down the toilet protecting some Foreign countries borders. Incredible.

          #50.3 - Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:39 AM EST
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