The governor of Missouri has enacted an emergency measure to drill new wells in areas where water is scarce, providing much-needed relief for the state's farmers and ranchers. NBC's Thanh Truong reports.
By Thanh Truong, NBC News
WARREN COUNTY, Mo. -- There's a desperate search for water under way throughout Missouri where 95 percent of the state is enduring extreme levels of drought. In the rural area of Truxton, farmer Rusty Lee estimates he'll likely lose 40 percent of his crops.
We walked through his withering fields where rows of yellow squash lay shriveled under the sun. Lee said he's been trying to explain the severity of the drought to his 6–year-old son William.
"I try not to talk about our losses money-wise, economic-wise, but I want him to understand that this drought … will go down in history and that he probably won't see something like this in his lifetime," Lee said.
He is one of more than 3,700 farmers and ranchers in Missouri who have been approved for emergency well drilling. Gov. Jay Nixon issued an executive order last month for the state to pay up to 90 percent of the cost to dig new or deeper wells for farmers severely impacted by the drought. The farmers will pay the remainder of that cost. So far, the state has set aside more than $18 million to dig these new wells.
"We've been praying for rain, you don't know how much these wells help us," said long-time cattle rancher Michele Christopherson.
Early Thursday morning, her farm was bustling with noise. A two-person crew, equipped with heavy drilling equipment, started digging the 540 feet necessary to hit fresh water. Christopherson's current well doesn't have enough capacity to keep her 100 head of cattle hydrated. She's had several die from the heat and several others have lost their calves. Between the $10,000 she's already had to pay for hay and the estimated $12,000 she'll have to pay for the new well, Christopherson said this year will be one of losses.
"We're tough, that's how you got be when you're doing this kind of business, but nobody can sit there and say they can handle that kind of hit. We certainly can't," said Christopherson.
Peggy Ebbesmeyer's ranch in Truxton, Mo., has been hit hard by drought.
By noon, the crew hit pay dirt. Water gushed out of the ground. Christopherson stood near her fence, smiling at the sight.
A few miles down the road, fellow cattle rancher Peggy Ebbesmeyer was eagerly waiting her turn. The pond that usually serves as the main watering hole for cows is drying up and the little water left in it is warm and green.
"My cows lose five pounds a day by drinking this water. There's not much I can do without rain," said Ebbesmeyer.
To supplement the rancid water, she's been hauling water from a town 12 miles away to her farm. That's been a daily trip for two months. Ebbesemeyer figures she's lost between $40,000-$50,000 after several head of cattle died and others were sold early.
But for now, she will likely have to wait until the end of August -- along with thousands of other farmers -- for the drills to arrive.
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Is this time for some "Pay-Back?" The United Nations, with the help of money from the IMF and the World Bank has been paying for water well drilling for decades. Is it time for a request for some of their millions so that our farmers can drill for water?
Since the US contributes the most money to the UN....we would just be getting our own monies back!
Guaranteed those taking government well "bailouts" will vote GOP nonetheless.
"What's good for the goose".............er
"What's good for me is good".
From today's Chippewa Herald:
Missouri's solution? Dig more wells!
Denial and rain dances don't work. I hope these emergency wells provide relief, even if temporary.
more media hyprocrissy. pic above is a local farm. local and organic farmers are discriminated as much as minorties and gays in this country. the help goes to factory corporate farms and theres no such thing free range cows in corporate farms (aka factory farms). more media lies, im not sure if the comments on here are by real ppl even. i know many farmers, want to know the truth? go to a farm, not the media. this is a insult to farmers.
Based on that image of the woman feeding the cows, she could give up some groceries and feed a dozen cattle and buy them designer water bottles.
I'm wondering if digging all these emergency wells is robbing the future to satisfy the present? Long term planners most people are not.
Also, I don't think that farmer is correct telling his son he won't see anything like this later. I think he'll see something worse.
I don't care what anybody thinks. I'm buying a drilling rig and making some money!!!!
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Just let the wells run dry if you can't manage the water in everyones best interest.
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Yes, keep drilling more wells to support unsustainable agricultural practices and watch the groundwater levels plummet and droughts get even worse. You need to conserve water and replenish groundwater by building ponds and reservoirs to trap water when it is available.
Max, every farm in this state has at least one pond and most have several to support their livestock and crops. Maybe you missed that part about "historic drought". The ponds and lakes are all drying up here in Oklahoma. This IS that emergency tipping point that you conserve for. I hope that this is another periodic shift in climate that will slip back to normal in the near future, but I have a bad feeling that this is only the beginning.
I have a pond that I have built and it definitely helps to keep groundwater levels recharged. What we need as a nation is a policy to build more large reservoirs holding more water that now just runs off into the sea. I grew up on a farm and I know drought.
Wouldn't that, along with aquaducts, be shovel ready infrastructure projects and nonoutsourceable JOBS that a stimulus could "create"?
I'm not sure these would be shovel ready projects - building large reservoirs is often a complex and long process, as land has to be acquired from various people, geologic and impact studies done, etc. Unless we are talking about giving a tax incentive to people to build small ponds, which is just not enough. In order to properly recharge large aquifers, large reservoirs are absolutely essential.
Mr. G wrote in post 1.5; "Denial and rain dances don't work. I hope these emergency wells provide relief, even if temporary".
Nothing fails like prayer. I hope the emergency well provide relief, too. I wonder if they're too late to save most crops. We'll be seeing more and more droughts, unfortunately. As I recall there's one massive aquifer which orients more N. S. than E. W., and its levels are dropping fast. The aquifer isn't able to recharge.
Most people probable don't know it but we have an abundance of lakes in this part of Oklahoma and they supply most of the cities and towns. At least for the time being, we still have them to fall back on but they are getting very low, as well. But this is the 2nd summer in a row of record breaking heat and no rain. Even this past winter was warmer and drier than normal.
I work for a public aquarium here in Tulsa. We have a casting pond outside where the wildlife department teaches kids to fish and I have a well to keep it full. Last week that well went dry. The craziest part about that is we are right next to the Arkansas River. That water table should never have gone dry! These are indeed extraordinary times.
Except... He probably will see something like this repeating frequently during his lifetime.
Now the farmers are all desperately digging wells which will cause the water table in the aquifers to drop drastically. I do feel sorry for these farmers. Hopefully some rain will come their way soon; however, Global Warming is beginning to drastically change our environment, and situations like this one will only escalate in severity rather than diminish.
Time to start the building the massive desalination plants needed to stave off the next major drought.
It's Missouri. Firmly Red. Firmly Religious and Firmly anti-science. There is no global climate change and if they pray hard enough god will provide.
No need to play the lame partisan, anti-religion game on this one MJ. Grow up.
Take a few notes from this article:
1. Their livestock "died or was sold". Read that as through desperation farmers are selling their livestock now and the prices for meat will be going up next year. It's happened before.
2. Shriveling up vegetables. Read that as you should expect to pay more for fresh and processed foods soon.
Even MJ may understand this one- the cost of your food is going to continue to go up due to the drout.
On the global warming front- It's anyone's guess what the root cause of the weather is. It's known to be cyclical, just like sun activity and hurricanes. I'd suggest doing what we think is best, but not expecting to change the climate.
The best possible thing for the farmland is having a long, moderately wet fall and a great snow pack in the winter. The aquifers are being reduced so there will be upcoming issues regarding water availability and usage.
The water drilling and draining of the tables is a prime cause of guess what?? Sinkholes! One disaster to another.
What's not cyclical are the receding glaciers worldwide, the opening of the northwest passage during the summer (ships can now go straight from Europe to Asia without going around Africa, S. America, or through the Panama Canal, and the massive thawing of the arctic tundra.
Oh... Something a little more than just cyclical weather patterns are happening. Give it another 10-20 years. Those of us who are right will say, "See we told you so"; those of you who are wrong will say, "Just a little blip - things will even themselves out eventually"; and the net result will be this...
...We're all screwed.
I'm waiting for the shift in the earths rotational axis. We'll freeze Phoenix and the cheese heads will be able to cheer the Packers bear chested on ground hog day.
Of course, that won't matter, because the earth will end on 12/21/12 at 12:21:12.
:)
Think of all that prime northern Canadian beachfront property, and the beautiful vacation resorts that can be built on those arctic isles.
Order now, and get a sweet piece of waterfront property with an unbelievable view of the sunrise over beautiful pristine Hudson Bay.......
To hell with Canadian real estate. I'm buying my retirement home site on Mars.
Damn global warming is really devasting. Just like during the dust bowl days. Just like the early 70s when scientists were sure we were heading for another ice age.
I can't wait for the next baktun. I'm buying beachfront property in the Northern Territories.
Yea, great, and they are digging down further into deeper aquifers which are already shrinking! Fantastic, more last ditch efforts which carry the caveat of not addressing the real issue. This is going to keep getting worse and worse until we address cliamte change and even then we had better buckle down to do what we need to in order to deal with the damage with us for at least the next 200 years.
Relief, now that's a glorious word in these circumstances.
Isn't Mars a mighty dry place? Whereas the southern shoreline of Lake of the Woods is still in the US, and a mighty tranquil place except during a winter storm.
While the water table/aquifer-depletion issue in most of Missouri is not yet cause for great alarm due to the drilling of drought emergency wells, further west, the Ogallala Aquifer is already down over 100 ft from 40 years ago, and the current fear there, (from north Texas all the way north to the Dakotas), is that the drilling of drought emergency wells could easily drawdown the aquifer much more quickly, as the aquifer is also a major source of drinking water over much of that area too.
Even without the drilling of any drought emergency wells, the Ogallala Aquifer will be largely depleted in the next 30-70 years depending on latitude starting from south to north, which will then drive food and livestock grain prices through the roof and make feeding our population of that time a much more-difficult proposition too!
Didn't take the bigots long to show up .... 3rd post. Hey mj, next time have someone who is literate READ the article to you BEFORE you comment & show your ignorance.
Hmmmm...........isn't that the aquifer we want to put an oil pipeline from Canada to TX to service China?.............No problem, THAT pipeline will never leak and besides there is plenty of water still left for Fracking............
I will confess...
6 years ago, I had read and digested as much as I could about Global Warming, and made the decision to move my family from our home in Palmdale, CA (in the Mojave Desert) to the central Oregon coast.
We mainly bailed from our home state due to the issues with the Colorado River.
Issues?
Yes, 6 states (CA, NV, UT, AZ, NM, & CO) rely upon this water. The Mexicans in Baja California get nothing more than a muddy trickle by the time the river empties into the Gulf of California. Decreasing water supplies were our concern. We just couldn't understand how more and more people could livein the American southwest, with no more water sources being miraculously discovered. Desalination plants weren't being built along the California coast. The Sierra Nevada mountain Snowpack was getting lighter every year as well (which fed the Colorado river). All in all, it seemed like it was time to get out of Dodge... Ya know..?
Best Idea ever!!!
The weather is wonderful here, Global warming may actually make the Pacific Northwest a garden spot while the rest of the world's climate becomes intolerable. Right now we're enjoying another lovely summer week of high 80 to low 90 degree weather. In another week, we'll get some clouds and maybe some rain, then a little more summer before we settle down for our rainy winters here. It's just absolutely gorgeous...
Anyway... To the deniers? Keep on denying... It keeps my neck of the woods nicely uncrowded.
And I remember a drought similiar to this back in 1954! I could have walked across what was normally a lake and waded thru the river channel that was still flowing at the time. I & my Dad did walk 1/2 way across the lake and it is a LARGE lake!
What he meant to say is that unemployment is around 30 percent and gas prices are over 4$ a gallon on the Oregon coast.
Dude what are you doing? We don't want more people here. Let us have our paradise in peace.
Well... Okay... You got me... I moved to the coast, loved the weather, but the job thing did get to me (plus the lack of a Best Buy and quality dining); so last year we moved inland to Portland and I now live exactly one mile from my office. I fill up my gas tank about once every three weeks, and I take the Light Rail any time I need to go downtown or to the airport (GO Tri-Met!!!).
It's about the best solution possible. Life in the Northwest is GOOD!!! We love it here.
Oh... Oh S$#@...
It really blows here... Oh the people, and the lack of readable graffiti, and all the politeness and cleanliness... Yuck, patooey... I wish I never came here... What, oh WHAT was I thinking... Woe to me...
(how's that?)
Better..
Now I have to go pick some apples from the trees in the front yard so the wife can make an apple pie and I can hand feed the neighborhood deer. ;)
Ever notice that every natural disaster that ever happens, libs automatically assume that its going to be the new norm. Hurricanes, droughts, floods, you name it, this is the new norm! Libs are not very optimistic people. It must be a horrible way to live.
Anjisan1963
Okay you made a good point and it sounds like you have solved all of our problems, so starting next week everyone from CA, NV, UT, AZ, NM, & CO, is now moving to your neighborhood and the rest of Oregon, problem solved.
Uh no another one down the tubes I was mistaken. HORRIBLE PLACE where I live do not come here. I was just joking around. The Pacific Northwest is the equivalent of a dead zone. nothing grows or lives here. Very, very bad... No good. Baaaaaddd....
"Time to start the building the massive desalination plants needed to stave off the next major drought"
Unfortunately, desalination plants will only work for a few restricted areas near the coast. It would take more energy than we use for all other purposes to pump enough water from the sea into the grain belt, where the worst of he drought is occurring.
There is no silver bullet for this. The best we can do is conduct research to determine the likelihood that anthropogenic global warming is the cause of these droughts and if so work to develop alternative sources of power. Meanwhile, water conservation and energy conservation can help, along with wells in places where the aquifers support it, to get us past the short term.
Interesting that corporations are buying up and privatizing water supplies. It's a maze of subsidiaries under big umbrella companies. Check it out. At one time Enron, under their sub Azqufir or some such name, had a scheme in FL to buy up and store water in their private aquifer, Jeb Bush was governor at the time. As luck would have it, Enron and this sub tanked. But you have to wonder what is up the sleeves of these big top moneyed corporations with their hidden, huge contributions to get into the WHouse. WE all need water and the Big Money know it. In Nov., vote for the middle class, the working people, to bring sanity to our country. Corporations are doing very well and don't need US.
Anjisan/Rtypo- If I didn't have family all over the midwest, I probably would have moved to the northwest years ago. I like the idea of living somewhere that doesn't have quite so much of an extreme each summer and winter ;)
As for this year, it's expected to be our third driest summer in recorded history, but it's at least mostly normal variation. Last summer was quite cool for us, with plenty of rain. Even with wells being drilled deeper, we'll likely replenish what was used once we have a few average years.
Anjisan1963 wrote;
I will confess...
6 years ago, I had read and digested as much as I could about Global Warming, and made the decision to move my family from our home in Palmdale, CA (in the Mojave Desert) to the central Oregon coast.
We mainly bailed from our home state due to the issues with the Colorado River... Post 2.14
Smart move. Starting in the early 80's the population of Victorville, Adalanto, Apple Valley and Hesperia exploded and its now a small metropolitan area.
The population of Las Vegas area exploded into a metropolitan area which creates a massive demand on the aquifer water supply which cannot recharge.
I've read recently about the discovery of another aquifer in the area. It can't be used as the water is radioactive.
Las Vegas has spent millions on flood water management-channels and catch basins. Now if the weather cooperates.
Anjisan1963:
All kinds of stuff grows in the Pacific Northwest, and there is plenty of rainfall there too. Apples and pears are grown there, as are plenty of potatoes too. And the best thing about potatoes from a sustainability standpoint is that they will last quite a while at that 53 degree underground temperature unlike most other vegetables, fruit, or fresh meat, which need to be refrigerated well below 53 degrees to have more than a few days to a couple of weeks of shelf life in most cases.
Also, my guess is that once all of our aquifers dry up, that land in northern New England, land around the Great Lakes and other northern large natural lakes, land in the northern Rocky Mountains, and land in the Pacific Northwest will become very pricey, so the sooner that we all move to one of the last outposts that has a decent remaining amount of freshwater with a decent rainfall amount, the better off our chances for long-term survivability will be.
gee...i would think the federal gov't would want to help...oh right...we have to send more money to foreign countries that hate us....
they have recieved over 250 million in federal money. how much you want to give them?
Whatever amount it takes. There's never any shortage when it comes to foreign aid.
But that would be Socialism that red states Hate with a passion.........right?
Sending foreign aid is not only what barry is doing.. We have had tens of thousands of Hamas, Muslims, being brought in by the boat loads..
Just what we need along with whats coming across the Southern Border, and they are all on the Government take..
I am amazed how bitter people can make even a tragedy like this partisan. The farmers of America feed the world. I don't care if its a red state or a blue state - don't care. They deserve aid.
Monsanto and Archer Daniels Midland, et al , feed the world. These local farmers are just the hired help. And they are stuck on stupid. His six year old is seeing the drought in his lifetime, and his elders are acting childishly telling him that the drought, which will likely return the very next year, is somehow 69 years early and some kind of cruel aberration, instead of the climate change that it is.
As any Republican would say: "There will be NO WATER until the budget is balanced."
The problem with climate change is that it's insidious. You'll get a really hot dry year like this, then in a couple of years you'll get a bitter cold winter. In between it's relatively normal but not quite, just a little off but not enough people notice.
The changes happen slowly and the extremes swing back and forth, getting a bit worse over time, but because you get both heat and cold people don't notice how bad things are shifting until it's too late.
Even if the climate isn't changing much, and most scientists believe it is, we should still work to control as much as we can. While it's more costly to do so the cost of not doing it, and finding out too late we should have, is devastating both in terms of money and lives.
Let's bring in more refugees and illegal aliens, shall we?
Food shortages and water shortages throughout the country, illnesses and diseases cropping up we haven't seen for decades, nuisance pests like bedbugs swarming half the country even in high upper end establishments and homes....
We, ourselves, are allowing and fostering the blight killing our country.
Bring us your sick, poor, huddled masses... Oh, that's when America was great and tolerated different people, never mind.
She, and all the rest like her. should be sent home! My family and I came to this country legally. We followed the rules and we never once were a drain on the country. from day one, we paid our own way and we built up and assimilated to be full blood American. My parents worked hard, and i emphasize, they followed the rules of the land. Now of course, the current socialist regime, cares not a whit for the law of the land, and is interested in nothing but getting re-elected. I may not care much for Romeny, but at least he's not intent on turning the country into a Socialist republic. Bam fooled me one. It's not going to happen again.
What does your comment have to do with this article?
I do however agree with everything you said.
Are you really a 'full blood American'? Which tribe?
I'd say that's an oops, right diatribe, wrong vine.
I think you cut and pasted the wrong talking point from Crossroads GPS.
I'm a legal immigrant: Your post doesn't make sense. Missed a line or two from your script?
I seen some of those farms, and none of them has water towers. Now, if they had 1-3 water towers to help ease water shortage, this wouldn't be a problem. They fill up during rain, you cover them just after spring, and you have couple months worth of water. Now you'll have some loss of that water due to heat, but only a small %. After that you can figure out a daily release ratio for rationing, if you need to ration.
Today's farmers aren't even real farmers. They been going by the motto, "grace of god". God doesn't give a damn about crops, or cattle. You either plan for this crap, or you can find a new job. And it sounds like most of those farmers need to find new jobs, because they sure have not grown with the times, or learned new methods.
Most farms have reservoirs and low level wells. Rain water collects in the reservoir or collects in the underground aquifer which is accessed by a low level well. Since there has not been a drought of the current magnitude seen in many areas of the country, the farmers have not had to dig deeper wells, accessing the lower level aquifers.
Farming is a business that does depend a great deal on the "grace of God." While you might be able plan for a once in every 300 years drought, usually it is not cost effective to have an extremely deep well and irrigation equipment. More often than not, farmers receive too much rain, at the wrong time, making planting or harvesting difficult. Timing is everything which is why farmers rely heavily on the Dept. of Agriculture and the US weather service. Note, those are two of the many non-military departments that the Ryan budget wants to cut.
you are an idiot . i was reased on a farm and you have no idea what a farmer has to do to make a living 18 hour days 365 days a year with no guarantee of any pay check. with outthe farmers you donot eatdoinot have milk and if you think the goverment is going to take care of you you will be dumpter divingto get what you can to eat. if the farmers got paids what you get paid for your job with no overhead they would be milmillionairs meny times over. so donot talk about the farmers with your mouth full of food reased by a farmer.
shooter234
YOU'RE CALLING WHO? AN IDIOT????
i was reased---with outthe farmers-----you donot eatdoinot have milk--goverment---take care of you you will be dumpter divingto---if the farmers got paids-- they would be milmillionairs meny times over.----so donot talk--mouth full of food reased by a farmer ????????
I'm a farmer and I would'nt hire you to shove shi* No wonder some farmers hire illegal immigrants...... THEY CAN SHHPEELL WURDS CURRECKTLY......and know that sentences start with CAPUTIL-LETRS!
UNBELIEVABLE!!
Perhaps shooter has been sipping on grandpa's hooch?
Shooter may not have spelled everything just so but he/she has a point. Our American farmers rock and they feed the world. They deserve our respect and support. Its hard back breaking work. They don't do it to get rich and most of them are not. But every time you sit down at the dinner table to eat, thank an American farmer. Most of the world does.
What's The Fuss says that you have to have a GED to shovel poop. Damn, no wonder jobs are gettin' hard to find! What is the Fuss, Fuss? Give Shooter a shovel and shut up!
To need to dig beyond 500 feet is a huge red flag...They needed to go down all the way to bedrock, which means the water underneath of them is almost gone already. This deep water does not get replenished when it rains, it is the leftovers from the retreat of the glaciers at the end of the last ice age. The only solution is to not have to raise all that much meat, which is caused by having too many mouths to feed in the first place. I expect the planet will not be able to sustain the number of people for much longer. The outdated concept that I can pull as much free water out of a well on my own property is like saying I own the sky above my land as well, all the way through the atmosphere and into space. That jumbo jet just flew through my property!
Soooo, you are are saying that everyone should 'buy' water from the local water plants? So, what makes water theirs to sell and how is buying it going to make it more plentiful? Look in your refrigerator and tell me how much in there would make it to your table with the water the farmer has.
Just pray to jeebus, he will provide for thee if ye have faith... er something.
Mocking people adds so much to the conversation. I guess it must make you feel better about yourself to put someone else down, hunh, RTypo?
Pointing out the idiocy of religion isn't necessarily putting somebody down. I called out nobody by name nor referred to anyone in particular within this thread.
And if you lived here, you'd know that just like with every other government program, plenty are signing on because it's 90% "free" even if they could pay for it all themselves. "Why, we'd be stupid not to get a well for 10% of the cost!" Trouble is, the "free" part comes from somebody else's pocket. I'm tired of everyone treating Uncle Sam as their sugar daddy. Now the salt of the earth are on the dole too.
It used to be shameful to accept a handout you could scrape by without. Actually, it still is. Just because a farmer didn't dig a well before in wet years doesn't mean some can't do it on their own now. I'd rather solve my own problems than accept someone else's hard-earned pay taken from them by the gov't so it can give me charity and buy my vote.
The difference is, by giving them a small amount of my tax money now, they will be able to grow more food, thus lowering my grocery bills by many times the amount i paid in extra taxes.
I will gladly pay to support the farmer who grows the food I put on my table.
Only an idiot would be selfish in a situation like this.
They were actually digging a hole looking for Obama's integrity, and struck water.
^^^^^^hahahahahahaha^^^^^^^^
even you must know how stupid that comment is
You mean like the integrity you see on Romney's tax returns?
Oh, wait - haven't seen those, have we?
..Your stand-up career is over. Don't you have some work to do on the single-wide anyway? buh bye then..
Let them go without government help or stop complaining about taxes and President Obama.
Well the EPA and environmentalists will soon put a stop to all this drilling without
environmental impact statements being filed. Plus the drilling will cause
massive earthquakes and release of toxic chemicals and natural gas
according to the official environmental lobby.
Dogs and cats living together. Absolute pandemonium.
Really CommonSense? Have a heart. I don't believe politics was mentioned in this article. Save that stuff for First Read.
Maybe you need to ask the people in Ohio where the fracking is going on. They can tell you a thing or two about what it is doing to their region.
The TEA Party should put a stop to this drilling. If they really come into control of Washington and the States; you will never see it again.
paofpa, you are absolutely wrong.. All of you left wingers keep spewing this kind of hatred.. The Tea Party only wants what is good for our Country.. We want the Constitution followed. Don't want the U.N. taking over the Country.
What you all should do is read what the Tea Party is all about.. You would definitely be surprised...Ya might want to climb on board.
Jean, were you bussed to the Tea Party rallies by the Koch brothers like most of them?
RTypo, do you have a thought that doesn't include a partisan snide comment? You must be an utter joy to be around, truly.
RTypo lives in his moms basement, cut him some slack and give him a trophy for participating.
paofpa: You're very right there. Drilling will be done under a sub of Koch Bros., or maybe Halliburton will dig up a sub name, if they haven't already. It's a shame that the Tea Party has succumbed to these too-large corporations, their quest for complete power and control. Didn't they start off with American values of tax equality, fair employment for all, solid public education - the traits that were drummed into our heads on what makes the U.S. the greatest country? Well, that's all gone. Now we have the graduates of Rove U. taking over what could have been a good idea. In any event, make a wise choice in the polls, it's either US or the corporate elite; it's either pro-choice for women or eroding health care; it's either opportunities for a better life for us and our community or degradation at a large scale.
MMMMMMM!! Earthgril.?? Tell me about your wonderful G. Soros. The darling of the Demos. Funny how you can demonize one person and not the other. Shows your bias.
There are so many real free energy sources out there but, we're still monkey's on the evolutionary scale, and wont adapt to them. Hope we smarten up soon. The Earth owes us human beings nothing. We be gonzzo soon
You know an alternative to water? Share the info, please.
Glenndala,
You have fallen for this global warming crap? Why can't you people educate yourselves and quit getting your lines, voice, from the alphabet news. No such thing as global warming.. Check out what was going on in the thirties...A complete dust bowl... WISE UP.
You don't read much do you? Critical thinking isn't your strong suit is it? Know what evidence based, peer review science is? It would have to be a pretty big conspiracy for scientists around the globe to all be in on a global climate change hoax would it not?
Why do you assume someone who doesn't agree with you is lacking in intelligence?
If it was just a matter of disagreeing with me you might have a point. But when he casually dismisses years of empirical evidence and peer review science from around the globe as "global warming crap" it's not beyond scope to assume those things about him.
btw being ignorant on a subject doesn't make one "stupid" and I certainly didn't call him that.
There go those Democrats trying to help people again. Don't they know that the government is evil and should only help the rich?
Obama stole yer water and is holding it hostage at them there FEMA camps. He'll only trade yer guns fer it!
Everyone likes a little a$$. No one likes a smart a$$.
How much does one drone cost? How much is being spent on rebuilding infrastructures in how many foreign countries? All the while our own country is suffering. Not very supportive of the middle working class now is it?
The middle working class? Who's their lobbyist?
A huge part of this problem. It is far past time to reform the use of Lobbyist. I say reform to leave the door open for them to be used for those who actually need their help which is not corporate America.
Let me tell ya'll a story 'bout a farmer named Jed. A poor Missouri guy, barely kept his cattle fed. And then one day he drilled for water cool, and up through the ground came a bubbling crude.
Oil that is, Texas tea.
Now the first thing ya know ole Jeds a millionaire. The kin folk said, 'Jed move away from there". So he sold off the cattle and gave away the hay. Then moved to California to a place called Beverlay......Hills that is.
Explain to me why we can't seed the clouds, like we did in the 50s and 60s even up into the 70s. True don't always get the rain where you want it. But Silver Nitrate will cause it to rain. It's at least a thought. We all didn't die from the supposed exposure.
First you hafta have clouds that can be seeded. This year, rain clouds are few and far between. So much hot air has been blowing around this year, all over the country.
BTW, did you notice that Congress has not been in session much, seems the politicians have been going away from DC and spending more time talking all over the country.
Is there a connection ?
Yes, they tried to seed for rain. They stopped doing that because IT DIDN'T WORK!!
yea,they kinda also found out that silver nitrate is somewhat deadly..could be a good reason not to flood the clouds with it
if it's yellow ...let it mellow ...if it's brown ...one more round...
Unintended results? Water tables are dropping and people are going without water. My in-laws well went dry and now have to pay several thousand dollars to drill it deeper. The BIG problem is that there is a 20-day wait since they are drilling all these wells for cattle. GREAT!
First of all this is a state of Missouri program, not federal, has nothing to do with Obama, immigration or Paul Ryan's tax plan. Most of this money that supports this plan comes from a conservation tax that is voted on by MO citizens and was recently reauthorized by a statewide majority. In some parts of this state wells can be dug down to 30' and have a substantial flow. In other parts of the state it is very common for wells to go from 350'-600'. In case you have never been to our state it has very diverse topography with river lowlands, Ozark mountains, prairies and rich farmland. Hope this can provide a little more background about the actual situation for the rest of you to discuss.
you are correct sir, i live right next to warren county just across the missouri river. our well is 375 feet deep and it was drilled in 1988.
i would say why dont they just lay a temp line to the river and use that to supply irrigation and water for cattle but the river is WAY down, many places the sand bars are sticking 2-3 feet out of the water when they are usually 2-3 feet under water.
we have been getting some pretty good rain over the last 2-3 weeks here but its too little too late for crops. i was just out near the river bottoms today, all the corn is toast, only the soybeans look decent.
Looks to me your program has paid off,thats what it was intended for.Sounds like a democracy in action here,I live in NH and our water table is quite diverse here also,good water can be found at 15 feet or sometimes one has to go 400 feet or more for good water.Mine is 100' and has so much iron in it you could run a steel mill,lol.Water softener takes care of that but I hear your water out there is very alkalai?
Thanks for the info, MissouriBoy12. I hope we all get some rain soon.
THAT's where....I lost my two farms (328A & 80A), herd of 35 head of cows and a bull and all my crops, and eventually machinery in good ol' MISSOURI, .... all because of drought and nothing to fall back on. No tears shed here,....wasn't then, either. Oh, yeah, that was in 1974. TODAY, we haul water, EVERYDAY !
Turnkey-2450549 I appreciate the sentiment and your point is valid but even the Indians/Cherokee/Pawnee, etc etc came here across a landbridge from some where else. We can split hairs all day long but in the end there are no "native americans"
It is far time to return to God and put the evil of our doings from before His face. Prayer isn't the only thing that will save us. It must be accompanied by sincere and heartfelt repentance (turning from and changing our attitude of sin, or wrongdoing). Before that can happen we must come to see and acknowledge we have, and are breaking His laws. This will take humility, puting human pride and arrogance and stubborness away once and for all. What parent out there likes or approves of being taken for granted by a child, or children with a rebellious and ungrateful attitude while providing for them, and they selfishly expecting it without changing their attitude or behavior?
Gee John... We could follow your approach. We could pray try praying to your God, or to one of the Hindu Gods, or to Buddha, or to Zeus, or Osiris, or...?
...Or we can take responsibility for our actions. We step up, be adults, and recognize that we have been destroying our climate. We did this to ourselves, BECAUSE we were children, thinking we could do whatever we wanted, BECAUSE we had a big buddy in the sky who we could pray to and ask him to fix everything.
Life isn't a fairy tale. Our life here on this planet is all we have. It's absolutely depressing to know that there are HUGE amounts of people (like you) who think they're just "Passing Through" here on Earth on their way to Paradise. Us rationale human beings who don't give in to delusional thinking or casting wishes into a rapidly emptying well know that if we don't fix what we break, we're all going to be in a bad way.
Regrettably, on this planet, the sensible, non-delusional people are completely overran by the delusional and fearful people (like you John) who are all around us. So, we know, that nothing will be done (nothing of any real meaning) about the ongoing degradation of the environment. That'll cut into profits for big corporations and we can't risk affecting an artificial think like a human economy to fix a natural thing like our environment.
...but none of this should concern our fine religious folks such as yourself, John. Problems with the environment on Earth..? You'll all pray for us while secretly snickering to yourself about your guaranteed Jesus seat straight to Heaven. So preach to us John, tell us how arrogant we are when in reality... It's the holy rollers like yourself who don't even appreciate the one and only life (and the one and only chance) you have here on this planet.
I've spoken to enough people like you John... You've drank the Kool-Aid, you've got your magical purple shoes on, and you've paid your money to Harold Camping to make sure you wouldn't miss the Rapture bus he was guaranteeing. The swindle you've perpetuated against yourself is absolute and unbreakable. Good for you. Strength of your convictions and all that. Senseless to even speak to you of this.
So, go ahead pray to your magical man in the sky. I'm sure while you're doing that, you'll be taking a shower, refilling your pool, watering your lawn, complaining about politics, fearing that someone is going to take away your rights to bear arms, and you'll be doing all this while you preach piety while you punch your wife in the face for serving you your dinner with a burnt biscuit.
...It's the only sensible thing a man of God could do.
Again,This planet was NOT given to us,if there is a God He intended for us to be it's keeper,it's steward indeed the very God you speak of is under your feet and over your head and God does not exist just for us but for every living thing here..when you realize that,then you'll start to make some sense to the rest of us..
If there was a God, it wouldn't care about dumb rednecks.
But we should.
Their delusional self-fullfilling prophecies and their notions that they were created in God's image and given dominion over nature are killing us all.
Drilling Wells...now THIS is a good action by government. Not only will it help now, those wells will be there the next drought, AND you have some Americans getting a paycheck installing them. I would advise having the smaller farmers helped first. The large conglomerates can help themselves. I was raised on a small farm in south Texas, and remember having to haul water (and loads of carrots since crops died) in one drought in the early 60s. We barely survived that year...and even a few after due to the loans we had to pay off.
Just hope it's not too late for many of those small farmers.
I live about 40 miles west of where they are talking. Most around here irrigate out of man made lakes. The deep well just half mile from my house is 640 feet deep. I have not seen a year this bad around here in my lifetime. If the farmers don't get help and lose their farms, guess who ends up with them. Corporations! They have been driving the land prices out of site around here the last 5 years. Land just sold last year west of here for almost $6000 per acre. Private farmers cannot afford that price, but the corporations that want to mass produce hogs are popping up everywhere. For those who don't want the wells dug, just where do you plan on getting your food? We need small farms, not farms run by people like Cargill, to keep the prices so that you can afford to eat. Help them now or starve later, your choice.
Well said, MrTamborineman.
Desalination may end up being part of the solution. Tho' it would be expensive...it is possible. We ship water from the Rockies to LA now; seems to me we could reverse the flow. Would be a heck of a stimulus to the economy, too. We could have a plant in the Gulf of Mexico to feed the Missouri area, or perhaps use some of the flood water from the Mississippi...
Finding solutions is a lot better than screaming about politics to me...just an opinion... just sayin'...
I have often thought about desaliantion too, but at the cost and the manipulation of the market, I am afraid the cost would rival that of a barrel of oil. I fully believe that the earth is running out of resources underground and there will come a time, when all drinking water will have to come from resevoirs or rivers. With the way that the earth is populating, it is only a matter of time before there are more people than resources.