Why are the Palestinians complaining, Israel now permits them 1 12oz. box of Froot Loops and one small large ruled notepad they can write on with a twig dipped in their own blood. Besides, why do the Palestinians need water when sodas are so plentiful?

The Water problem is man made. You do not need a well for water.

Think about all the free energy/Controlled energy at your finger tips.

I was a Water PLant operator. I can make water and give it away and

there will be no reason to fight for it. All this clever snipes at the Palistine

people are by people who have never seen the other side of the world.

Take your politics and put where the moon don't shine. Poverty and an empty

stomach make people angry and depressed. That give the few people who want to argue

and fight stronger to the point they put rediculous demands on their people to hate.This goes

for all people. If you have you hate anyone who wants or needs what you have you are insecure.

Water is the blood of life. We can drill for oil and pipe line thousands of miles. It is cheaper to produce water and do the same. Renewable energy is the simple key. Produce Water people will buy it and produce

the food people need and the Economy will thrive . Just Ask e and I can prove it

Such nonsense. The Palestinian population has increased substantially since 1967. There is no 'ethnic cleansing', just propaganda by the likes of idiots like you. If there were an ethnic cleansing, the Israelis would be considered completely incompetent at it. Considering that Israel is by far the most advanced, competent nation in the Middle East, it seems unlikely.

These kind of stories by MSNBC are so politically motivated - at the end of the day, none of us really know who's at fault for the lack of water (in fact, the article actually says the springs are full this year). They're just made to stoke the fire. It's a totally inconclusive article with no actual evidence, just stories of Palestinians complaining.

Most people do not understand that the Israeli Government is building fences that are designed to gain control of the water supply. The Israeli Government is slowing cutting off Palestinian access to any water supply for their crops and olive tree's. This is intentional. The fence is irratic in nature but watch the documentary "Palestinian Blues" and it shows how the fence is being built to cut off the water supply to farmers. So, not only is Israel STEALING LAND FROM THE PALESTINIANS they are also stealing the water supply. Shame on Israel. We are on to you, and see what you are doing. Its all about "control" and Israel wants full control of all land, and water. End the Apartheid now!

It's a totally inconclusive article with no actual evidence, just stories of Palestinians complaining.

Do you have any idea what you are saying? You do realize that the Palestinians are being driven off of their farms AT GUNPOINT, and having their lands confiscated and bulldozed, so that the Israeli Government can build for housing for the Israeli's?

You need to do some research on what this conflict is all about. Israel IS stealing land from the Palestinians and GIVING IT to their own Israeli citizens! How would you feel if someone came and forced you out of your home and off your property, at gunpoint and then you had to watch it bulldozed to the ground. Some of these farms have been here for centuries...... And, you think they are "complaining"........They have a right to complain, Duh.

What a laughable, yet moronic term "ethnic cleansing" has become. The Palestinians, despite being "ethnically cleansed" have seen substantial population growth. Ethnically cleansed, as used by the supporters of the Palestinians really just means "hey there are still Jews here". The Palestinians have plenty of access to water, but they'd of course have to dig a well and that would mean helping themselves and losing the "publicity" they get from being a failed people. If they were successful they wouldn't receive support from the political left in America and Europe, so they choose to fail. Time for the Palestinians to return to their homes: West Bank goes back to Jordan and the Gaza goes back to Egypt. So sick and tired of this fake and failed people who are where they are because of what they did and do.

The Palestinians ARE at home, they are being forced OUT of their homes. So when you says "time for the Palestinians to return to their homes" what ARE YOU talking about. Some of them have lived on their farms for centuries...... And, the Israeli's ARE cutting off water access to these farms..........

So, in your opinion, Israel comes to their farms builds a 50 ft fence to cut off the water supply to these farms and then at gunpoint forces them off of their farms........ Where exactly do you expect them to go? Most of the Israeli's are European Jews, that have come to Israel...... So who exactly is the invader here?

How much money did the U.S. give to the P.A. in the last week?

Nice try to deflect the responsibility of the Palestinian plight away from the Palestinian leadership and squarely upon every one else.

Please tell us you don't have children.

Actually about 1/2 of Israels population is indigenous, but nice lie. You're aware that Yassir Arafat was born in Egypt so whats your point? I mean with only 2 billion Muslims on earth where else could the "Palestinians" go.

Tell the whole truth, Slinger.

Go back in history further than you do.

And you conveniently skipped the part where Israel has been trying to deal with the PLO for decades.

Try discussing who is exactly trying to exterminate who.

Nice deflection, but the truth is the Palestinians are being forced off of their land. And, Israel receives 3 billion a year from the US in aid. Why does the US give aid to Israel when they can afford to buy 4 nuclear sub's this last week.......... Uh sorry but, I do know my history...... Israel stole the land and is moving the Palestinian people OFF of theirs and into a concentration camp, called GAZA.

Herald9 When you can't make good points go directly to insults, is how you work it? Nice try.

Historically the land is Israel's. I see the remains of Solomon's temple sitting underneath 2 mosques, which the aders erected in an attempt to wipe out the history of the original inhabitants of the land. The land was known as Judea and Samaria until the Romans stole it, renamed it and eradicated a lot of the original owners. The land was then usurped by others, most notable the Ottoman empire, until the Palestinians took that which was never rightfully there's. I usually sit on box seats at the ballgame until the rightful owners show up and then I leave. Palestinians therefore have an example.

What BS. How can you say a "vision" gave them the land that the Palestinian farmers have owned for centuries........Sorry Fairy tales don't sway anyone.

Hey, Arizona and California have been trying for years to get water from the Great Lakes at the expense of other states. California and Arizona would rather see a huge pipeline across the midwest, then see a few desalination plants ruining their view of of the Ocean. (They are soooo Green)

So what is new about people stealing water which does not belong to them?

Frangipani : you said : Israel now permits them 1 12oz. box of Froot Loops.....

Are you insane or what? it s shocking to see people like you joking about this matter because you are not under their shoes to know what it feels like to have to wait until Israel decides for you what to drink and what to eat!!!!!!!!!! and if you gona live tomorrow or not!!!!!!!!!!!! this is exactly how Phero prince of egypt treated them back then.. IT S A SHAME THAT THEY NEVER LEARNED FROM THE PASS... THEY ARE PURE EVIL

And, the Israeli's ARE cutting off water access to these farms..........

So, in your opinion, Israel comes to their farms builds a 50 ft fence to cut off the water supply to these farms and then at gunpoint forces them off of their farms........ Where exactly do you expect them to go? Most of the Israeli's are European Jews, that have come to Israel...... So who exactly is the invader here?

@Slinger (from #1.6 above),

Do you really think a "50 ft fence" will cut off the water supply? The article clearly states that the drought conditions(until recently) were mostly the cause of the shortage of water. The "Palestinian Authority" is also to blame due to their lack of organization.

As for "European Jews" being the invaders, genetics has proven that they are descended from the original Isralites, so the Jews in Israel are in their rightful land. The Palestinians are Arabs who are indistinguishable from the other Arabs. The land that the Palestinians should be claiming today is called "Jordan".

Chuck Woo; I worked at a Water/Sewer District for over 20 years, I have no idea what you are talking about... you said ask, so I'm asking, explain yourself.

I cracked up over your name, at our Water District, woo stood for - waste of oxygen.

This water stealing by Israel is decades old - very good documentary on it called; An Orange Clockwork.

The Israelis depended on the Palestinians to pick their fruit - just like the USA depends on people from Central America to harvest our crops. Both the USA and Israel stepped on their private parts when they started making laws that kept out their labor force.

Eric; Arizona was by passed for their radical views on slavery, when water from the Colorado river was divvied up. The water ways take a hard right toward California - come on down and take a look at our rivers here in Arizona - they only have monsoon run off water in them.

The truth is land land doesn't "belong" to anybody. Since the beginning of time land belongs to he who can win it and hold it. The Franks won and now we have France....The Anglos won and now we have England....If you do want to argue that the Muslims deserve to have land returned to them that was taken during a war I am sure that you will support all the Jews being given back their land taken from them throughout Germany, Austria, and all of Eastern Europe. For some reason though I don't hear you calling for this? Oh, I think I know the answer....The answer is that you never hear a Jew trying to get this land back and the reason is that Jews have been taken in by their brothers in Israel after they were cast out of their own homelands. Muslims on the other hand never have taken in their brothers. Gaza is no concentration camp as Slinger claims. There is a huge exit out of that place into Egypt but the Egyptians will not accept them. Same in the West Bank. Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon all refuse to assimilate their brothers instead choosing to use them as a pawn. 800,000 Jews were thrown out of their Middle Eastern homes at the same time as the Israelis won their independence in 1947. This is more displaced Jews than there were displaced Palestinians at the time.

I am not sure why they call the West Bank (part of Israel) the "occupied territories" as if the are somehow squatters in their own country!!?? Where else in history do you see the conquering nation making apologies for their aquisitions and making apologies and reparations to the conquered people, instead of assimilating the people and integrating their culture or annihilating them. ??!? OH THAT"S right! THE US of A!

I just saw on the news that the UN is now saying we screwed the Indians, or native Americans, out of their land, specifically Mt. Rushmore, and that we should give it back to them. The official report will be out later this year, this is just their preliminary report. The Supreme court ruled years ago that the US did not have the right to take the land, so they were paid reparations for the land. Yet the UN still wants the US to give the land back to the Indians.

Now, based on that way of thinking, the Palestinians should be forced to give the land back to the Israelis due to their "Arab brothers" evicting the Israelis from their homeland years ago. That makes the Palestinians and their descendants nothing but squatters.

Or at the very least the UN should make Germany and the other nations that stole the land from the Israelis during WWII give their land back. not to mention all the money the Swiss stole from them during WWII.

The UN is fixing to open up a can of worms they have no clue about if they try to me the US give anything back to anyone. That will start a legal precedent that will turn the world on its ear and could go back into time immemorial.

Blakmagick The way I see it IS that Israel should give BACK the Palestinians farms and lands that have been being bulldozed for Israeli citizens. Based on you analogy you have it backwards, the Israeli's should and WILL eventually give back the land that they are stealing everyday from the Palestinians.

Isreal is not a real nation. was made by power hungry people who used there Jewish ansestory as a right to take the palestinians land. As some jewish rabbis rightly said Isreal is a rebillion against god.

option 1, Find a human heart

option 2, Ask god for forgiveness

option 3. Stop posting hate

The Palestinians,don't have the Money to be important,to our money grubbing Politicians,therefore it is forced to act,Might I say in the same manner as many high and mighty Americans, if they were denied the basic needs for survival.Where is the outrage? Klondike has a point .Why the trumped up outrage over one in China,when hundreds are abused in the Israeli controlled territories?I'm guessing the one in China is another Blind Ayatollah,with his stated opposition to the Gov birth control system and we just love to argue and fight about this issue.So good luck you thirsty Palestinians,we need to save one in China.

Klondike........what......have you been smoking????? @everyone, right on brother. 1967 borders isnt even a proper term to use. The land was never rightfully the palestinians. However, let me just say one thing. Its sad that some of the palestinian people are completely unawares of the true situation, and dont know correct history, and really have a skewed view on what this situation is, bc they really DO see it as ppl invading and "taking their land" when thats not the case. People all throughout history and time have tried and tried to absolutely annialate the Jewish people, and yet to this day, they still (by a miracle straight from The Father Himself) have came back together AGAIN, to reclaim what has always rightfully been theirs. Im not giving them a pass on any wrong doing.....they ARE people, and wrong will be dealt with in all due time. But Yisrael (not just Jews) are God's people, and we have a promise to that land.

The Israelis are no more than theives and murderers, who have stolen the land and wtaer resourses of the indiginous population, which were Arabs. It doesn't matter what you call them, Arabs owned the land and the towns, which are now Israel towns, because the natives were driven off and their land stolen. Your god, is nothing but a myth, made up to justify in your own minds the horrible treatment of other peoples and the theft of their lands.

"When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about
it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle."

Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces,
New York Times, 14 April 1983.

"If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with
Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it
to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been
Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They
see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would
they accept that?"

David Ben Gurion (first Israeli PM, quoted by Nahum Goldmann
in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion,
clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with
time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization or Jewish
State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their
lands."

Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.

"We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never
do return... The old will die and the young will forget."

David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in
Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.

"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and
the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab
population."

Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum"

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not
even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because
geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab
villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz
Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar
Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in
this country that did not have a former Arab population."

Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in
Haaretz, April 4, 1969.

RalpH never tires of posting falsified quotes. (No integrity?) Here are two corrections:

Media Monitors (http://www.mediamonitors.net)

An article archived on the Media Monitors Web site is filled with questionable assertions and bogus quotes (some of which were debunked in Part I.) The following quote (which also appears on the MIFTAH Web site) was attributed to Israeli Northern District Commissioner Israel Koenig, supposedly from his controversial report on Israeli Arabs in Galilee:

We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.

Source given:Cited in Lustick, Ian, Arabs in the Jewish State, University of Texas Press, Texas, 1980.

Investigation: Neither the source given (Ian Lustick's Arabs in the Jewish State) nor the actual report itself contains any mention of "terror, assassination, intimidation or land confiscation".

The Koenig Report or “memorandum” as it is sometimes referred to, was a private document of recommendations written in 1975 by civil servant Israel Koenig, the Interior Ministry’s official in charge of the Galilee, to alter the demographic balance of the region in favor of the Jews. The recommendations were rejected by then Prime Minister Yitzchak Rabin, denounced by senior Cabinet ministers and rued by then foreign minister Yigal Alon who expressed great regret that the recommendations were ever written. It provoked controversy within Israel after being leaked to Al Hamishmar, the publication of Israel’s Marxist party, Mapam. Koenig’s recommendations included expanding and strengthening Israel’s Jewish presence in the Galilee, applying legal consequences to Arabs expressing hostility toward the state and Zionism, enforcing tax collection from the Arab sector, cutting family subsidies to Arabs with large families, eliminating preferential acceptance of Arabs into Israeli universities, channeling Arab students into studying the physical and natural sciences rather than humanities, and encouraging young Arabs to study abroad and emigrate. As controversial as Koenig’s proposals were at the time, however, there was absolutely no suggestion of using "terror," "assassination," "intimidation" or "land confiscations."

Summary: Fabricated quote, false source

ACTUAL QUOTE AND CONTEXT:

The quote is taken from an address Dayan gave to Technion University students on March 19, 1969. A transcript of the speech appeared in Ha'aretz on April 4, 1969.

In answer to a student's question suggesting that Israel adopt a policy of punishing Arabs who commit crimes in the West Bank by deportation to Jordan, Dayan answers that he is vehemently opposed to this idea, insisting that the answer to the longstanding Arab-Israeli problem is to learn to live together with Arab neighbors. He goes on to say:

We came to a region of land that was inhabited by Arabs, and we set up a Jewish state. In a considerable number of places, we purchased the land from Arabs and set up Jewish villages where there had once been Arab villages. You don't even know the names [of the previous Arab villages] and I don't blame you, because those geography books aren't around anymore. Not only the books, the villages aren't around. Nahalal was established in the place of Mahalul, and Gvat was established in the place of Jibta, Sarid in the place of Huneifis and Kfar Yehoshua in the place of Tel Shaman. There isn't any place that was established in an area where there had not at one time been an Arab settlement.

Dayan's conclusion was that the solution to the Arab-Israeli problem is to learn to coexist with them.

In the misquote, the key phrase "we purchased the land from Arabs" is omitted, and thus Dayan's meaning is reversed. Dayan was not saying that Arabs were dispossessed. On the contrary, he was indicating that though Arabs sold the land of their own free will, given their presence in the region, the Israeli goal is to live peacefully together with them.

If they purchased the land, lets see the deeds. Are you claiming the Jews purchased entire villages? The quotes I site, are as accurate as can be. Zionists have lately came up with sites which try to debunk or spin the truth. Their own words are coming back to haunt them. It is the same as what happened after the 1967 war, when Zionists put it out in the media that the war was started by all the Arab nations ganging up on poor little Israel, when the truth was Israel had attacked Egypt, destroying it's entire air force while it was still on the ground.

“I do not think Nasser wanted war.
The two divisions he sent to The Sinai would not have been sufficient to launch
an offensive war. He knew it and we knew it.” Yitzhak Rabin, Israel’s Chief
of Staff in 1967, in Le Monde, 2/28/68

“Moshe Dayan, the celebrated commander who, as Defense Minister in 1967, gave the order to conquer the Golan...[said] many of the firefights with the Syrians were deliberately
provoked by Israel, and the kibbutz residents who pressed the Government to
take the Golan Heights did so less for security than for the farmland...[Dayan
stated] ‘They didn’t even try to hide their greed for the land...We would send
a tractor to plow some area where it wasn’t possible to do anything, in the demilitarized
area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn’t
shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in the end the
Syrians would get annoyed and shoot.

And then we would use artillery and
later the air force also, and that’s how it was...The Syrians, on the fourth
day of the war, were not a threat to us.’” The New York Times, May 11, 1997

“The acceptance of partition does
not commit us to renounce Transjordan; one does not demand from anybody to give
up his vision. We shall accept a state in the boundaries fixed today. But the
boundaries of Zionist aspirations are the concern of the Jewish people and no
external factor will be able to limit them.” David Ben-Gurion, in 1936,
quoted in Noam Chomsky, “The Fateful Triangle.”

Nonsense Procrustes. I'm sitting on some property deeds that last I checked, two of them had squatters sitting on them. My family has invested thousands of dollars to regain these lands to no avail. Go spread your Israeli paid propaganda to some other tools.

Sally,

Don't you think your "moderation" is one-sided? You never ever disciplined antisemites like ralphh and maloccio, and don't even pay attention to justiceforall, who looks like reincarnation of IsraelLies.

Anonymous user - Maybe you can convince the AIPAC to take over newsvine like they've taken control of our politicians. Just because you disagree with someone's arguments or points of view does not make them an anti-semite. When you throw that word around recklessly, you lose credibility.

Maybe you can convince the AIPAC to take over newsvine like they've taken control of our politicians.

Unless you have any "Proof" that AIPC has control of one politician, let alone all of them, it's you lacking in creditability.

The truth is land land doesn't "belong" to anybody. Since the beginning of time land belongs to he who can win it and hold it. The Franks won and now we have France....The Anglos won and now we have England....If you do want to argue that the Muslims deserve to have land returned to them that was taken during a war I am sure that you will support all the Jews being given back their land taken from them throughout Germany, Austria, and all of Eastern Europe. For some reason though I don't hear you calling for this? Oh, I think I know the answer....The answer is that you never hear a Jew trying to get this land back and the reason is that Jews have been taken in by their brothers in Israel after they were cast out of their own homelands. Muslims on the other hand never have taken in their brothers. Gaza is no concentration camp as Slinger claims. There is a huge exit out of that place into Egypt but the Egyptians will not accept them. Same in the West Bank. Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon all refuse to assimilate their brothers instead choosing to use them as a pawn. 800,000 Jews were thrown out of their Middle Eastern homes at the same time as the Israelis won their independence in 1947. This is more displaced Jews than there were displaced Palestinians at the time.

Kpr37 - Are you serious ? Regardless, see below just to educate you a little bit about the AIPAC.

"AIPAC's success is due to its ability to reward legislators and congressional candidates who support its agenda, and to punish those who challenge it. ... AIPAC makes sure that its friends get strong financial support from the myriad pro-Israel PACs. Those seen as hostile to Israel, on the other hand, can be sure that AIPAC will direct campaign contributions to their political opponents. ... The bottom line is that AIPAC, which is a de facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on the U.S. Congress. Open debate about U.S. policy towards Israel does not occur there, even though that policy has important consequences for the entire world".

Questions ?

Are you serious ?

Yes, I am.

The bottom line is that AIPAC, which is a de facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on the U.S. Congress. Open debate about U.S. policy towards Israel does not occur there, even though that policy has important consequences for the entire world".

Because reality stands in opposition to your regurgitated conspiracy theories, strait out of "the protocols of the elders of Zion".

The best figures I've seen suggest that AIPAC and affiliated groups spent around $3 million dollars in 2011. Which sounds like a large figure, until you realize that total political spending amounted to some $5.3 billion. Is .05% a large figure on the planet where you come from?

Can it buy the loyalty of any, or every, American politician?

http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000046963&year=2011

So, Morphine, is that like a refutation to what sparky said, an addendum, or are you just trolling him?

That babble must be through a Morphine fog.

That is bull and you know it. Israel has enslaved the Palestinians and has been trying to kill them off for years.

is your right to "life liberty and the pursuit of happiness" negotiable? Didn't think so

Pure propaganda. israel up to now refuses to recognize the very existence of the palestinian people and is occupying a territory in violation of international laws and wiithout even having the support of the US government which it dare ridicule biting the very hand which feeds it. Maps sold in Isreal do not even recognize the territories presently administered by the Palestinian authority. Israel is founded on the motto " a land without people for apeople without land" What it wants is the disappearance of the Palestinians. it is setting impossible conditions by simply asking Palestinians to recognize that they dont exist and making anyone else believe that it really wants peace. the only peace it is ready to give the palestinians is the peace of graveyards. let Israel give the palestinians llving in its recognized territory the same rights given to jews in the USA , before givig lessons to arab countries. Let Israel renounce Zionism which is the source of the Palestinian problem, not the Arab position!

I thought I had read somewhere that at one point Israel has agreed to give Arafat 97% of what he was asking for on behalf of the Palestinians but he refused because an agreement with Israel would diminish his power.

Does anyone know if that is accurate?

It is completely accurate.

I think the bigger issue is not that Arafat rejected the offer, it's that he presented no counter-offer. He literally said no, walked out the door, and then the 2nd intifada started. Actual peace was never an option for him.

You have to understand, that even with these stupid articles and all the Palestinians' complaining, the facts show that they actually lead better lives than most. If you look at unbiased data on health and malnutrition rates, you would see that they have it no worse than practically all of the Middle East. Meanwhile, they are the charity box of the entire world - there are literally thousands of tons of food and aid, as well as hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars that flow directly to the territories. It was said that Arafat died a very rich man btw.

I'm not saying that they don't deserve freedom - the current situation is unfair, either they should be Israeli citizens or have their own state. Right now, they are in limbo.

But if you want to support a cause, support regions that really need it. Like the Congo, Sudan, various Southeastern Asian countries, etc. Those regions don't get the same publicity as the West Bank does, even though they deserve it 1000 times more. At the end of the day, what sells headlines are inflammatory remarks about Israel, right-wing America, etc. which is why the news agencies focuses their attention there.

More nonsense from you Proc !!! How much are you getting paid these days to post all your nonsense and propaganda ?

Arafat is dead, what is the point to argue WHAT could have happened...

Because it points out how improbable it is to find a solution. If Arafat rejected that deal without a counter offer, what deal would be acceptable? (other than the making all of the Jews leave)

I suppose he thought he would look silly trying to counter an offer that gave him 97% of what he wanted.

It's because, at the end of the day, most of them want Israel - as a Jewish state - ended. Any solution that falls short of that is a failure and would likely result in an assassination. The right of return for refugees is critical, for that reason, if they accept a 2 state solution. There was nothing for Arafat to say at that point. If he accepted the deal, it would have meant failure on the greater goal. So, he said nothing.

as long as Israel is committed to the destruction of the Palestinian people they cannot nealry expect the palestinians to extend the hand of friendshp. Palestinians are not the ones who expel the Jews from east jerusalem, who refuses them the right to own land and build houses, the right to access to water, the right to use their roads, the 5000 rules imposed on the Palestinians by israelis, etc etc. let us not reverse the problem : the motto" one land without people for a people without land" is the Israeli jewish motto. the order of yehwah to wipe out whoever is not Jewish is not an order given to Palestinians. The only hand Israel is ready to extend ot Palestinians is the hand to chocke them to death. Up to now, Israel does not even want tor ecognize the existence of the Palestinians, let alpone extend them them a hand of whatever the issue is Zionism not the Palestinians. The only time when israel is going to extend a hand of friendship to palestinians is when all are either dead or in refugee camps. You cannot distorte truth to this point or else ask israel to renounce Zionism and give first recognition to the legitlimate rights and existence of the Palestinians and second adopt the US bill of rights. It is that simple. and of course allow non jews to use the for Jews only road. It would be a good start. Israelis: Be aware that the world is not anymore fooled. the victims are the palestinians in Israel not the jews. you can hide this truth to yourself you cannot hide it from the rest of the world and it is maybe the reason why the mad Zionit leadership of israel wants to wate a war against iran just for the rest of the world to forget that the aggressor and the root of the problem is Zionism not the palestinians , not even the Arabs or the Muslims or Islam

if it is an arid land why dot you let the Palestinians live in it and let them die with hunger instead of labelling it a land without people for a people without land?

klondide you are MooseLimb idiot that wants to kill all Jews. You along with other idiots live in a fantasyland that Israel is the problem. The nation of Israel has done nothing but bless others while the idiot MooseLimb Palestinians have only MURDERED people all over the world. You are a closet NAZI klondide. Get real and try and be factual instead of living in your fantasyland.

Klandide, learn to spell... and then find a way to express your thoughts coherently.

For centuries the Ottoman Empire (today's Turkey) ruled the land in question. After WWI, and the fall of the Ottoman Empire, the French and British ruled the land by mandate from the League of Nations. After WWII the British mandate devolved into Transjordan (today's Jordan) for the Muslims and Palestine (today's Israel) for the Jews.

Since then the Jews have busied themselves building and defending a modern first world country and the Muslims have squandered their resources in futile attempts to eradicate the Jews. Weep not for the Palestinian Muslims who reap what they've sown... weep for their children born to a perpetually ignorant and silly little people.

Israel has not stolen water from the Muslims... Muslims have simply continued to live in the dark ages while Israel grew into a modern, prosperous first world nation.

Martha, any more of a genious statement and Id be mailing you a giftbasket hahahah. Love it.

"Weep not for the Palestinian Muslims who reap what they've sown... weep for their children born to a perpetually ignorant and silly little people."

The whole post was great, but this got me. :)

Isreal is the largest welfare state in america. They come begging the congress every yr. They could not stand on their own with-out the support of the american tax payer. A welfare state of beggers,theives and bullies using america as their body guard.

My question is WHERE DID ISRAEL GET THE MONEY TO BUY 4 NUCLEAR SUBMARINES, this last week? Was it, the helpful US? Why is the US giving 3 billion a year to a country that has bullied all its neighbors? And, can afford to buy 4 nuclear subs? Israel has always relied on the US to back it, and it has against international laws persecuted its own people (the Palestinians). Let Israel stand on its own, and make its own enemies. Backing the Rogue Bully State of Israel is becoming a problem for the US. Stop funding its propaganda campaign against the Arab people.

The subs were subsidized by Germany.

Israel already had three, and received the 4th this week.

And, I;m sure you'll be pleased to know that two more are coming.

Lovely. So we can worry more about Israel and their nuclear weapons, AND North Korea. Yay.

the us gives more aid to palistine than to israel. not much more but still more acording to the general acounting office report for 2012. Germany suplied most of the funding for the subs inorder to boost production at their shipyard.

ansower: the Jews want all the palestinians out on the basis of the Zionist motto: a land without people for a people without land' What you are proposing is blasphemy and even borders to anti semitism for jews. Dont make anymore such common sense proposal because for israel you are already entitled to be on a watch list and on a no fly list. Dont even try to visit israel. Yu might be held for years without trial as the 1600 Palestinians who have been on a hunger strike for the last month and whose news are held under cennsorship from the US mass media

Anti-semite much?

klondide is a freaking MooseLimb murderous NAZI. Hey klonidiot why not post as Mohammad, or Abdul, or Hassan? Might as well you are not fooling anyone moron.

Only MooseLimbs murder people worldwide, no other group has done so for 1700 years. Ask the Sikh's, they will tell you all about the MooseLimb murderous heart.

MooseLimb ???

It's 27,000 gallons on an acre and 17 million gallons on a square mile.

Thank you! Had my acres and a square mile mixed this morning, have a great day!

Its called the US Jewish Lobby. They give money to politicians to buy their allegiance....... Sick.