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Subscribe to RSSIn the days ahead of Saturday's South Carolina primary NBC's Tom Brokaw learned about the issues most important to people in the Palmetto State for the Nightly News series Main Street, USA.
By Tom Brokaw
NBC News
Columbia, S.C.
There are only two days left until South Carolina’s Republican presidential primary and a new NBC News/Marist poll shows former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is gaining ground. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has a 10-point lead over Gingrich, but Gingrich now has the support of 24 percent of likely Republican primary voters in the state – and the support of the latest candidate to drop-out, Texas Gov. Rick Perry.
I spent two full days in South Carolina, from Greenville-Spartanburg to Columbia and many stops between, including the old mill towns of Laurens and Newberry. The Palmetto State has so many parts -- the coastal areas, the midlands, the western front -- and they're all distinct in their geography and culture. But after speaking with people throughout the region, I found nearly everyone agreed that this year the economy trumps all in South Carolina, a deeply religious state where social issues such as abortion and gay rights have played larger roles in the past.
NBC's Tom Brokaw spoke with Ron Paul supporters at a "debate watch party" at Bailey's Pub and Grille in Greenville South Carolina.
Ernie Segars, the county administrator in Laurens, S.C., said although religious issues are “very important” to voters, “jobs and the economy are the major issues right now.”
“I think when the economy’s better and things are improved, and certainly the social issues are important and will have a role,” Segars said.
Watch Tom Brokaw tonight on “Nightly News” as he connects with voters in the political battleground of South Carolina, the second in a series of reports called “Main Street, USA.” Click HERE to watch the first report, from Iowa.
Gov. Nikki Haley, a Tea Party darling who has struggled with her ratings her first year in office, echoed that sentiment.
“We’re looking for a president that understands it’s all about jobs,” said Haley, who has endorsed Romney. “The hardest part about my job has been the Obama administration … The people of South Carolina saw that we passed by the will of the people legal immigration reform and the Department of Justice stopped it … The people have experienced the mandates and the stops of the federal government and they’re frustrated with it. And so they’re looking for someone that can go in day one and say, ‘Lay off the states, let them do their jobs and let’s get people back to work.’”
South Carolina's unemployment rate has hovered close to 10 percent, even with a new BMW plant and the arrival of some support industries.
I also spoke with the state’s U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham, a Republican who is being criticized by his own party and a variety of other party activists for his occasional departure from Republican orthodoxy.
“The question for the Republican party, would we put raising revenue on the table to solve our entitlement problem?” he asked. “Will our Democratic friends put on the table working longer and reducing benefits? And every time you put these ideas on the table, people come at you pretty hard.”
NBC's Tom Brokaw speaks with South Carolina's Sen. Lindsey Graham.
After talking with dozens of people, I encountered the most passionate opinions at a Ron Paul debate party at Bailey’s sports bar in Greenville: all working class and mostly young, many of whom had not been involved in politics before.
I asked Sandy Monroe what she found so appealing about Ron Paul.
“He challenged my ideas,” she said. “He sent me back to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and to the Founding Fathers … He could win if the people understood what he stood for. If people like me would actually go study what he says, it makes sense. And it’s our freedom that he’s talking about.”
But for Robert Whitney, “it’s a trust issue.”
“Everything that Romney says, he’s flip-flopped too much,” Whitney said. “When there’s big government people saying that Ron Paul has integrity, that he’s a man that stands by his word, then I mean, I think that’s all the proof you need.”
Tune in to “Nightly News” tonight for more of Tom Brokaw’s reporting from South Carolina and join the conversation on the “Nightly News” Facebook page.
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This is the guy you would want for president??? He's a libertarian???
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/11/ron-pauls-record-in-congress.html
http://tulsachange.com/ron-pauls-voting-record-what-does-he-stand-for
Over Willard? Any day of the week! At least he'd shake things up.
Tom Brokaw
NBC News , thanks for the article on the vine...always been a fan of your work...a class act , as they say......
ANYONE but Obummer...A N Y O N E
Not likely, all the right wingers are nucking futs!
Obama/Biden 2012
well... everybody knows that crime pay's...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZVcxt_-r28&feature=related
I think that "anyone but Obama" can take you some places you really don't want to go.
So where does that leave Gingrich? He is an old Washington insider. He says he is conservative, but I have never heard of a conservative working class guy with a half million dollar line of credit at Tiffany's. I guess that is to try and buy off the women in his life. Conservative my butt!!
That leave all the GOP candidates without an oar to row themselves with, much less this country.
Most of the stuff Ron Paul comes up with would never happen unless he was a dictator with absolute power. Remember folks, the federal government is made up of three branches. I can't see either of the legislative houses going along with much of what this guy is proposing. When you come to think about it, the President's role is really quite limited. And you think we have stalemate now.
when will people come to the conclusion that ..Social Issues do not put food on their plates .. voteing republican anymore is voteing to lose your rights .. the dumming down of America is very evident in S C .. states like S C would like to eliminate all education for the poor and middle class ... if your still voteing republican after what has happened since the 2010 elections your voteing against yourselves and your childrens future .. the GOP/TP would love to have complete control of our Country and our lives
RON PAUL 2012! The candidate that cannot be bought!
SC needs to look around the 15 worst counties are all in the RED States, you people think the GOP cares about you, get real, the only people they care about is within the 1% and you sure are not those people, just because you vote GOP don't make you one of them, you're to damn poor for them to give a RAT's azz about you people, wake up and take control, stop following the rest of the sheep ......
If the good people of SC are truly ready to get past abortion and gay rights and wake up to the reality facing this nation, then perhaps there is hope.
Romney would be more of the same - a slick 1% corporate raider, handed the keys to the White House - which shareholders do you suppose would benefit from his presidency?
I doubt he's got what it takes to turn things around. Too many masters to serve. At least with Paul, you know what you are getting, and I have a hunch he'd be on the tv letting the American people know what's wrong in Washington and just who is standing in the way of progress.
Yes, I know what I would be getting and that is what scares me about Paul. It is also probably why so many members of Congress have failed to support any of his efforts since he was first elected to the House and then the Senate. We don't need another John Bircher trying to run this country.....we had enough of their disasters in the 50's.
So romney is a slick corporate raider? You know, he is rich already (250 million or so) so he doesn't need more so maybe he will do something for america and the middle class. There are not other options. Gingrich , I am not too sure about as he looks like he talking through you when you see him. Although he is pretty smart....Ron Paul is an empty slogan. The first time he tried to cut anything out of the governement both parties would eat him up and spit him out. If Iran shuts the gulf down, you don't want a president who would just say we should not interfere. Private sector is nice, but it isn't reality...... When you have someone like obama who used the office for book deals, you question the motives. He spent most of his time sc rwing the middle class and basically burying america. He's is jimmy carters twin. By this summer when gas is 5 bucks a gallon, he is gonna think twice about his little environmentalist positions that don't hold water.
jolly - Do you really think a leopard can change his spots?
What has Romney "done for America" to this point in his life? Sounds like electing Mr. Potter from "It's a Wonderful Life" and expecting....a wonderful life.
Real,
Romney did go to Utah and fix the Olympics they messed up so bad, and he did it for free. When he was Governor, he did it for a dollar a year and he paid for all his own travel. He cut their debt by over 90% and their deficit was wiped away. All this in four years and virtually for free. Say what you want, but I would hope first you would research the people who are running. And I don't mean reading news articles from biased media.
Real, we dont' have options. Romney's spots are that he got rich in America in the private sector? Boy, thats really rough for you progressives. I would much rather have a guy like him than Obama who reads a teleprompter trying to game people while making book deals on the side to get rich. There are a whole bunch of people on this site all worked up over the election and obama is laughing his as off at them. He got his and he is trying to consolidating power through crony government capitalism. Also, obama is lazy. RRegan and a lot of presidents would get out there and read legistlation and try to negotiate small bills in order to do business on the big ones. I don't think this guy ever has even picked up a legistlative book in the last 3 years or even understands america. I can't stand lazy bums who think they know better nor people who don't care about right or wrong. 12 million illegals and bank bailouts, endless wars while folks continue to lose their houses. .....He would rather turn everyone into poverty to make people equal than bring everyone up. Very distrurbing personality.
Iowans and NH voters made their choice. Now with fewer candidates SC voters are looking pick a candidate they would support. Newt, Rick and Mitt are running on Christian Values while Ron Paul is using much of the Confederate Constitution as a replacement of the US Constitution. Paul expressed the need for the US to go back to the 50's when as Dr. Paul said things were great. Each candidates using attacks on President Obama as ignoring the Party of No Congress who have done nothing for over two years. The Congress just came back from their 4 week vacation and now are going on a two week retreat to discuss how to continue the mission to assure Obama/USA fail.
Yes, in the 50s we were a much better country in every way, except on equality for blacks. Less murder, crime, drug use, divorce, teen pregnancy, govt dependency, children with no father, STD's etc etc
Higher tax rates (90% was the top rate).
Sure, if we're going "back to the 50's", let's do it all the way, shall we?
See the chart! Back to the 50's!
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/taxratesgrowth.jpg
Sure we were. And how about those nuclear tests exposing people to radiation without their knowledge? The reason the 50's were such a happy time for you was because you didn't know half of what was going on. News was heavily censored by guess who? That 's right, the government which you are so disgusted with these days. Economically the 50's were the best of times, but socially not so much. Not only were blacks heavily discriminated against, women were hardly able to move beyond the kitchen (and this was after they proved they were equally able to function in the workforce). Sound like someone needs to pull their head out of the sand.
ChestyPuller Many remember what you don't as Dr. Paul was well award of that time in the USA. 1955 a 14 year old Emmitt Till was killed and Mack Parker was lynched in 1959. Even former Secretary of State Connie Rice remembers the following
On Sunday, 15th September, 1963, a white man was seen getting out of a white and turquoise Chevrolet car and placing a box under the steps of the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church. Soon afterwards, at 10.22 a.m., the bomb exploded killing Denise McNair (11), Addie Mae Collins (14), Carole Robertson (14) and Cynthia Wesley (14). The four girls had been attending Sunday school classes at the church. Twenty-three other people were also hurt by the blast.
Yes those years are what many like yourself are proud of and look for those days again. Newt Gingrich born by a teenage Mom and living on welfare and even Mitt's Dad, George Romney born in Mexico but came to the USA living off of welfare/food stamps. Karen Santorum a young women living with a man 30 years older and after her lover refuse to have kids and all the time she spent working in his abortion clinic is now the poster of Christian Family values. Tea Party favorite Sarah Palin sees no problem with Newt Gingrich affairs and many marriages as she experienced having an affair with her husbands business partner and even a fling with Glen Rice. Yes those days seem to be coming back when Dr. Paul gets in office and we now know the real Christian Family Values Republicans want the US to follow.
From what we saw at the last debate, cheering for racism, and booing Paul's using the Golden rule. Jobs and the economy? Really? Had any Co's close down their in SC? But with Gingrich pandering to the fringe low-lifes of the GOP/baggers, should be interesting, NOT! Just more of the same!
There was no racism or cheering for it in the last debate. South Carolina under Republicans allows blacks to vote and eat wherever they want, unlike when it was run by Demoncats.
The implication that bashing Barack Obama's miserable record on the number of people on food stamps, which have increased by 14 million during his term even though the number of net unemployed is only up 2 million, is racist, implies that you think blacks are the only people on food stamps, and that food stamp handouts and blacks are synonymous.
This is something Demoncats would call racist if anyone else made that 1 to 1 equivalency.
"....cheering for racism...."
You obviously lied by implying that you actually watched and LISTENED to the debate. Why?
I find it somewhat condescending that Tom Brokaw referred to our governor as "a Tea Party darling". Sounds like the smart man from the big city thinks that we are too stupid to make our own decisions. Quit forcing Mitt Romney on us. Not saying that I wouldn't vote for Mitt, but MY vote is MY decision. SC might border the east (left) coast, but we've proven, throughout history, that our minds are our own.
Erm, Detroit, maybe you're a transplant, but I think SC is on the "right" coast (east), not the "left".
Detroit19 you comment flew right over RealAmericansFirst little head. We know what you ment by "left" coast don't worry.
I wish the old timers would just go lay down somewhere when they retire. Brokaw is not relevant in todays news in as much the same way as Mathews, they are mouth pieces.
Gingrich is kneeing Romney in the groin in 3 polls out today from Souf' Carolina!:
Insider Advantage has him up 3, 32% to 29%
Rasmussen has him up 2, 33% to 31%
PPP, Democrat pollster, has him up 6, 34% to 28%
Brokaw interviewing republican primary voters is like obalmer running the economy -- some things just shouldn't be...
anyone but the socialist in 2012!
South Carolina has been in the economic dumps for the last 12 years! Those racist goobers and filthy 'baggernuts, in that politically backwards red state--love tryin' to live in the 19th century.
Were you just born ignorant or do you not just get out that much to see other parts of the country?
Tracey...I've seen more parts of this country than you will ever see! And...that's a fact! Screw South Carolina's BS politics. And, any other sick-azz, racist, backwards, goober-laden red state politics! Including yours.
"Nuff said, Tracey...? Whine on...!!
BTW: Obama/Biden win again in 2012! No Doubt!!
Tracy that's how ignorant big city cdj is he still thinks biden will be obama's VP this time.
Once biden is gone maybe obama's troll's like ole cdj here, will start to see how stupid their messiah is???
Na, cdj still believes obama is an American patriot, refuses to believe obama is an anti-Amercian progressive and cdj is a pimple on obama's azz!!!!
Gary K... when are you ever gonna learn to type in english? Or, at least spell in proper American slang?
Your goober-turd education is showin'. And, it's pathetic.
Obama/Biden in 2012! No doubt!!
"And, any other sick-azz, racist, backwards, goober-laden red state politics! Including yours."
You sound like some angry wimp ass liberal. Make sure you don't travel to any southern states....for you own safety.
think for yourself, not a poll. mitt is a man of good morals and a family man. he knows how to get this country going again. ya'll find fault with him because of money and faith, at least he has both, and won't do what the person we have now who has neither morals, faith or his own money.
Dr. Tom -- Guess What ?
Economy Trumps All !
Obama Should Just Leave Office Quietly !
Ask which one of them would bring William K. Black back into government, give him the big stick and let him swing it.
The GOP nominees are far more welcome in this state than Obama ever will be considering the administrations backing of bogus complaint filed by the NLRB on behalf of union workers opposing opening a new plant in South Carolina....a state that doesn't bow down to thug union bosses and workers.
The issue was resolved after negoations resolved the situation...
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/manufacturing/story/2011-12-09/boeing-nlrb-drops-case/51764098/1
Which is why the average wage in SC is only $12.45 an hour and the state ranks 43rd in average income per capita ($28,285), Tracy.
Wake up.
http://www.sciway.net/facts/
your right end these rotten unions-i support newt but romneys a good man with bain he crushed those lazy over paid union workers with those high pensions high medical benefits umpteen weeks vacation and told them give up all those benefits and take a huge pay cut and you can keep your jobs-those who didnt he fired and sent the jobs over seas took there pensions from those lazy union dem guys/gals and gave it to us hard workin gop stock holders who invest in america-they now say chinas may lose mfg jobs to the usa because of mitts strong union killin actions!!
@RealAmericansFirst
The cost of living isn't that high. You need to wake up boy.
http://blog.1stmarinerbank.com/2011/07/is-the-cost-of-living-and-inflation-higher-in-washington-baltimore-area/
real american your a phony real americans would be willin to work for less than 5 bucks an hour no benefits and no overtime pay like my great great grandpa did that built this great nation to begin with its greedy lazy workers and the dems and the unions that have brought this great nation to where it is today-why mitt or newt will put you and all like you in there palce and bring back those jobs as we will kill those worthless chinese workers once our wages and benifits are on the same scale-once we eliminate all enviromental standards and cut wages and the minumin wage and these ridiculous ssi and meidicare taxes and are on the same playin field as china they wont have a chance just need to kick all these dems out of the senate, the remainin ones in the house and put mitt or newt in charge to make it happen vote tea party yes were takin america back!
Well, if your great-grandpa was making $5 an hour in 1951, I'd need to be pulling down $454.52 an hour to match the exorbitant rate he was getting paid (accounting for inflation).
I could probably afford my own benefits and overtime pay at that rate.
Instead, the lower 80% of Americans have seen their wages SHRINK (accounting for inflation) since 1978.
Real Average Hourly Earnings: January 1964-October 2005
And it's been even worse in the period from 2007 to 2010:
http://www.princeton.edu/~pkrugman/wagedeflation.PNG
Instead, people like your GOP candidates have been sucking up all the growth in GDP and giving none of it back to the workers who earned it. Elect one President? No thanks.
hey real american enjoy my posts below its workin were takin jobs back from china thanks to the gop
Eliminate all public unions and make all states Right to Work!!!!
limbaughger, you are hysterical. You almost have it down, but you don't fool me. A true Limbaughian wouldn't be as good at spelling and grammar as you, and you are way too progressive in your views to be a true Limbaugh follower.
Tracy1973
The complaint was filed, and then later dropped by the union, not the NLRB, they simply run the court. Also it was not about opening a plant in SC, which now has 5 Boeing sites, it was about whether or not they moving work wrongly as punishment. The plant opened on schedule, and has been adding workers and building the first airplane for some time now. That plane should be taking its first flight in the next few months.
Read your own posted link, where it clearly says the union dropped its complaint.
"Read your own posted link, where it clearly says the union dropped its complaint."
And as I already said...AFTER negoiations where the unions dropped the complaint about not getting the 737s built in the Washington plant Boeing agreed for this work in exchange for the NLRB dropping it's suite. The union people said it was about job security, but we all know if the NLRB could have legitimately stopped the SC plant from opening they would have been all for it. They cut a deal because they had no legal leg to stand on and Boeing was not going to be bullied by the unions about where they can do their business.
newt is taking over the mormon is going down, newt will be strong and cut the federal government with a knife!! say good bye dems to all your entitlements of the last 75 years!! fdr was a socialist and why we have social security payin a bunch of old people to not work!! what happened to the good christian days when families use to take care of a elderly parent like the show the waltons-libs have destroyed america and newts the man to fix it all-he wont be the food stamp president because he will end it and do like the bible says-if you dont work you dont eat!!vote teaa party cut off all free loaders take america back-we cant afford medicare no more-were payin thousands of dollars for knee replacements heart surgeries you name it on old old people then they die within 6 months-its a dem scam-end it vote newt vote tea party were takin this here usa back!!
Obama has won the wars overseas. The war on terror is hardly a war anymore with al qaeda torn to shreds. Out of iraq. Leaving afghanistan. The economy is the only thing. But gdp is at all time highs. The unemployed need training to work. The only thing is taxes.
the only thing is like on the shawn hanity radio show-give obama a boot up his a... its the american way!! then we take america back see my post 13.4
obama didn't win crap oversea's it was all written and signed before bush got out. READ,
the funny thing is their still blowing the hell out of each other, so i guess we didn't when crap. one thing i can say though, glad our men are home. should never be over there for nothing, drill here put in the pipeline he signed away until he needs another pawn. about november he will sign into effect and kiss our ass. not my vote.
i guess all the people that want obama re-elected have jobs, or like welfare and unemployment. it will run out, or you all can go bow to the next empire, China. because thats where we are headed with that brain dead ass, and biden, in california saying the giants will go to the super bowl, smart man their.
i live here in sc and there is a union called road way also the only jobs here are temp jobs that pay @!$%# been out of work 2 years and my old boss made 13 million in 2009 and let me and some others go in 2010 he is still working but i lost my house he also is a christian that is what he tells everybody just so he can get work also i think that the church should be taxed see how much money that will generate...
It is going to be more of the same, except worse if Obama is elected again. It's going to be more of the same, except worse if Romney or Gingrich get elected, all three are the greater of evils for the USA. The only real change for this dying country and it's people is RON PAUL. If you do not clearly understand economics, history, and how important the Constitution is to each and every one of YOU, you'd better learn quickly, your vote could be one that brings down the USA as a nation, the home of the FREE. There is ONLY ONE TRUTH, it's up to you to find it and then act upon it. The END will come upon you quickly, quietly, and it will leave you wondering how did this happen?
I agree ron paul would end our huge military and leave it up to real patriot militias like me to protect our people, we are armed and ready and have been for years, any thug tries to rob us and we shoot 1st ask questions later, anyone steps on my property who dont look like the average tea party guy gal gets blown away if they even dare step on me or my buddies property. illegal drugs no more god put those plants on this earth for a reason and if it makes my sore back feel better why cant i smoke it?? and by god if a women wants to sell her body why cant i buy it-this is america were supose to be free!! elect ron paul vote tea party were takin america back!!
You sir, are an idiot. Ron Paul will leave it up to militias? Where do you get such stupid thoughts put into your small stale brain.... Limbaugh of course! Another PARROT! The idea of someone like you having a gun is more scary than Obama.
Shoot first ask questions later - sounds like our new NDAA policy.
Who don't look like a tea party guy / gal? What- are you PROFILING now? What does a tea party person look like? do they have three eyes? Or just a big hole between their ears? Ron PAul started the ACTUAL TEA PARTY MOVEMENT, so give credit where it is due rather than thinking YOU have anything to do with the REAL Tea Party. You have been co-opted just like the other simple minds.
The REAL Tea Party has my respect, but not the brainwashed "anyone but Obama" idiots who just want to blame ANY Democrat rather than look in the mirror and see eight sorry-assed years of Bush.
Want a war with Iran? Then get dressed, get your gun and get over there. Who's stopping you? Your own pathetic lack of courage. Whiny, blaming and finger-pointing and taking sides is NOT productive.
Yes, at this point in time, the economy really does trump all.
But I'm wondering if the drooling teapublican rubes really believe that corporate America will even slow down their job offshoring efforts just because a teapublican is elected..
They can't be that mindlessly simple.......
has anyone suggested so? by slammin our wages our enviromental standards and these government taxes like social security tax, obama care tax and medicare tax and eliminatin them all were on an even playin field with china and face it when things are even we win-all americans will be workin --most 80 hours a week or more to feed there families-we will kill china make it happen vote tea party were takin america back!!
Limbaugher: If not for the actions of FDR we would have become fascists after an almighty second civil war. Many large corporations and their toadies are on record for a plot to overthrow the duly elected Gov't. of FDR and either bring him to heel to their plan for a corporate dictatorship, or kill him. All this in the light of Hitler's "plan" for the world: Might makes Right. Corporations/capitalism do not need, or even like Democracy, or the" pain-in-the-ass" citizen voter... one more little thing about fiscal responsibility: in 2003 the Air Force flew 363 TONS of hundred dollar bills to Baghdad, much of which disappeared. That money on top of billions more burned up in Iraq for NOTHING but death and destruction, and somehow that travesty is the sole responsibility of the current, duly elected President! Another thing the corporate lap-dog Republicans did was gut our dollar by removing it from gold, ironically to help pay for another frenzy of useless death, VietNam. So take your lunatic ideas to a library and READ!
You fully realize that Mr. Limbaugher is pure over the top parody... right???
What are you talkin bout k12 im the same guy who's moniker and photo drive all the dem women wild and make them hot, have tallant on loan from god and if evoulion was true (its not) would be what the current man kind would evolve into and am one of the most loved and adored people on this god's green earth! watch what you say the high almity is on my side!!
Never doubted it for a moment...
""What are you talkin bout k12 im the same guy who's moniker and photo drive all the dem women wild and make them hot,""
K12,
You shouldn't rat Lim out, he might stop entertaining us! His satire makes my day!
I agree Jo-An. Kinda sad though that so many don't realize he's joking because there are serious people out there with those views (actual Limbaugh followers). Makes ya think.
It does not matter who is put into the whitehouse. This country has been so divided over the past 3 years, Jesus Christ himself could not fix it. Another revolution will be needed.
man obama has even screwed up things worst than i thought , is it really that bad. we had to put the fed in its place back in 1861 too-tried to take our states rights away-trouble is we lost , lets hope its not that bad again but if it is its the late great general lee's bithday is today-god bless his soul us great southerners are ready and willin to take up the cause again— god bless america!! the great jefferson davis rises again!!
amen brother justbfair
A few comments on the comments here:
1) "Most of the stuff Ron Paul comes up with would never happen unless he was a dictator with absolute power."
Actually we have a wannabe dictator in Obama (NDAA, TSA) and in Bush (Patriot Act, unjust wars) Since both branches of Congress have proven that they don't work for the people, perhaps having a sane mind with VETO power could keep these corporate-sponsored nazis in check.
2) "ANYONE but Obummer...A N Y O N E"
Satan is anyone. These kind of superficial statements show how ignorant people are about the choices. Romney is another Obama, Gingrich is a corrupt liar who dumps his wives when they become ill - perhaps he will dump his promises to the American People just as easily. Think instead of just mindlessly supporting whoever the media pushes as the next great thing - that was Obama three years ago.
3) "newt is taking over the mormon is going down, newt will be strong and cut the federal government with a knife!!"
Here is a great example of another MORON who wants to take a stab at the "Mormon". Notice he doesn't say Romney, but "Mormon". Newt will cut the government like a knife. What a joke. More like stab America in the heart after Obama spit in our face and Bush kicked us in the nuts. But then, anyone who listens to Rush Limbaugh - well, consider the source: easily brainwashed, easily led to the slaughter. Rush never complained when W signed the Patriot Act into law which violates personal liberties. But WHOOOAH! when Obama signs the NDAA Limbaugh craps his pants - hypocrite.
and this from the same jello-brain:
"what happened to the good christian days when families use to take care of a elderly parent like the show the waltons"
The Waltons was a TV show. We don't live in a TV show. And I find it funny that when Ron Paul paraphrases Jesus at SC debate he is booed. Christians... yeah right. What a laugh. Learn what a Christian is first before claiming to be one.
Another Idiot:
3) "real americans would be willin to work for less than 5 bucks an hour no benefits and no overtime pay like my great great grandpa did"
Your grandfather lived in a world where we didn't owe trillions in debt to China and the Banksters. $5 actually purchased more than it does today. Are you working a $5 an hour job with no benefits? I didn't think so. By the way americans should be Americans and willin is spelled willing. Your grandfather probably got a better education too.
And one last one:
4) "Newt, Rick and Mitt are running on Christian Values while Ron Paul is using much of the Confederate Constitution as a replacement of the US Constitution.
The confederate Constitution? Where do you get that? He's signing copies of the only Constitution we have. I don't see him claiming that it is anything but THE Constitution. What rock do you live under?
Newt - Christian values. Tell that to his two previous wives. Guess marriage between gays is non-negotiable, but adultery is acceptable even though "Christian values" say it isn't
So convenient for people to see the world however they choose too rather than the way it is.
When America falls into a pit of darkness, it will be people like this that helped it to come about through lazy thinking, lack of facts and a desire to WIN - even if we all lose.
Pathetic.
Actually George W bush , sponsered and signed into law the TSA in 2007. My husband has to deal with these $8.00 / hr idiots all the time, they have no clue about anything all they do is cause more problems for the airlines, and by the way Bush created these agencys with absolutly no funding like his other 2 wars , jsut didn't care how it was going to be paid . George Bush sponsered and signed into law the Homeland Security with no funding what so ever, the Homeland Security is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of we already have the state police, the CIA and the FBI. Seems like The republican presidents spend like crazy and calculate the consequences very carefully, so when the next guy comes along he gets stuck with all the mayham.
I just want to say that I really like your post I am for Obama in this election, but I agree with what you say you have very good comments. I know that if elections could change things they would probably be outlawed, but I guess I will go to the polls no matter what.
I respect your choice to support Obama because I believe it's up to you to do the research, weigh the issues and of course - its a "free country. I say this in jest because, as you know, Obama is breaking the Constitution and even basic morality when he decided to assassinate U.S. citizens without trial and then signed the NDAA which also denies citizens the Constitution right to a trial and representation by a lawyer.
It is too simplistic to support a candidate based on what you WISH they were. Facts are facts. If you are OK with living in what is quickly becoming a military state, then YOU will be assisting this to happen by supporting it. If you can not see the truth, you will only help the rest of us to be dragged down by supporting any candidate that takes away our rights.
I would prefer NOT to vote than to vote for Obama. Although, I seriously doubt that our votes are counted properly, reported honestly, and upheld by the legal system, it will be up to the citizens to wake up, get up and do something to educate the simple minds who only think in soundbites and simple rhetoric, to DEMAND that Constitutional principles are adhered to - something Obama has ignored.
The problem, most voters really do not understand what is at stake in this election, most are on the PARTY band wagon, the have had it so good for so long, it's only about Dem party getting in or REPUBparty getting in, they have not understood or researched the underlying problems facing the USA, they sit in front of the TV and are going broke, believeing the major media sources and the candidates they are pushing. The solutions are mindlessly simple, Ron Paul, has the right agenda to get this country back on track. Remember "can't see the forest through the trees" the forest is burning. Rome fell because of the same problems the USA is having and is on track to fall. YOU can change the direction, get off the party bus and on to the revolution peoples bus. WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE NOT THE PARTY. NOW GO DO THE RIGHT THING!!!!!!!