Liz-561790: Anything constructive to offer? I thought not.

Pot? Meet kettle!

John from boston, Liz gave very good and very constructive advice. What is your problem. Don't understand how voting should work? But then you are a Republican I guess and so you think that all that redistricting Republicans are doing should shore of the next election for them. We'll have to wait and see just how many people agree with Liz. I think you're going to pee your pants then, John.

Ill be voting anti-incumbent 100% this election......I do believe in term limits,and thats my way of supporting my beliefs.Whats congress disapproval rating now?

These guys get in office and they are there for a lifetime.. they fail to serve the people, but instead work for special interest and toward keeping themselves in Office..Im tired of all of them and Ill be voting against any incumbent in 2012.

Enstrom, the next guy you vote for will be bought and paid for by the corpotations too. That's how elections are in our nation now. So it will be same old same old.

Enstrom

They have term limits in Ohio for all state-wide offices. The career politicians just rotate jobs; Secretary of State to Auditor to Treasurer to etc. etc. etc. The only solution I know that works is an informed citizenry.

I agree Enstrom at the very least we won't have to come in contact with the same smug face..

What is in fact a greater preamble to this is the fact that those on the right BLAME him. They laugh at his hardship and scoff at his inability to thrive in a constricted economy. In fact I have heard those on the right locally call him a "Sissy La La". Which I must take as an inference of his adept womanhood as they see it.

But the reality of it all is this. People are hurting and not only men but families. MORE stories of personal hardships and hopelessness must be covered if not saturated in the media. Because those so heartless as to laugh and scoff at such real emotions will soon find themselves not far off from this situation. Be it themselves children parents or friend this is not an isolated incident by any means at all. ;]

Cheers

Unfortunately many of our leaders are unaware of how the Global Economy works, and thus are not able to provide informed and intelligent leadership decisions. The underlying issue of the slow economic recovery, is the failure of our economic and political leaders to realize that the Free Market economic system is failing America. In the Scientific World, the Free Market system would have only been considered an unproven hypothesis, because that is all that it was when it was implemented as a replacement for the Free Enterprise economic system in the 80s, and despite a lot of hype from the few actually profiting from it, that is all that it has turned out to be. The Free Market system can only work fairly in a world were the labor rates are the same in all countries. Presently 3rd world labor rates are about $3 per day, and as low as $1 per day. When US jobs are outsourced to 3rd world labor, in addition to labor wages paid, assets flow from our developed country to the 3rd world, to build the factories to house US manufacturing equipment used for outsourcing, and to build the roads and other supporting infrastructure. With the loss of these assets, the economy of the host country sees an economic decline and a decrease in individual buying power. The only way to balance this loss of assets, is by requiring balanced trade with the countries supplying the cheap labor, in order for the flow of assets to flow equally in both directions. If the developing nations are unwilling to raise their imports, or if their economies cannot yet support a balance in trade, then tariffs on the imported products, and an out-sourcing tax on the companies profiting from the cheaper 3rd world labor market, is the only way of maintaining a balanced flow of assets as required in order to sustain a healthy economy for all Americans. It is expected that those that crafted and pressed for the implementation of the Free Market Economy, would have perceived these drawbacks, but apparently either failed to implement a better working system, or didn't feel that it was their responsibility not to so devastatingly impact the livelihood of their fellow Americans, as they facilitated the outsourcing of their countrymen's jobs, and thus his or her ability to provide for their own family. Unfortunately instead of requiring balanced trade, which could benefit all countries involved. We are placing ourselves at a disadvantage by outsourcing our latest technology, and thus undercutting the future of our High Tech industry to reinvest and maintain it's technical and competitive advantage. Silicon Valley has so many vacant commercial buildings that some of the industrial parks are starting to look like ghost towns...

Juan and Gina blame all politicians as if they are all the same... if they were the same then why have an election - anyone will do? Democrats and Republicans "do" have different jobs policies so go out and choose the one with the policy that will create jobs. If you choose a Republican then you have only yourself to blame for job loss.

Well said sir indeed. But what I must add if I may is this. A qualified taxation of fair trade in the literal sense could match the labor rate a hundred fold. If we as America the country would not continue to allow imports to be taxed at a lessor rate to value then those products shipped within our own borders we could relegate the field to level.

When you then had but do not have now illegal labor, Americans [the actual small guy] had a balance of under the table

come up-n's as it were to keep on the heels of the massive corporations who were able to spend themselves out of. [situation] Illegal labor was an excepted form of commerce and labor for decades hence its classification until this day as a misdemeanor. Yet the ignorant in this country have hindered there own tools to help themselves in exchange for self gratification of hate and intolerance. This is WHY free trade and NAFTA worked for as long as it did but does NOT now. While piled on to the top of the mound is the now criminal liability of the employers caught in question.

During the housing boom many contractors, concrete workers and roofers etc. started companies using both illegal labor and legal labor. To balance out the profit margins in shared expense. And unlike slavery those who came across the rivers excepted the cut in pay as they were given a better shot in this country all though they in fact were bending the rules. But as we know many people were well to do because of this fact. Many Americans and illegals prospered greatly. The economy was BOOMING and trade was on the upswing and so much so that more and more American companies that could afford to do so moved over seas. Why? Because they hate the level playing field of competition.

Oddly enough they did so due to tax loopholes on imports and you guessed it. Even cheaper labor then illegals. In fact SLAVE labor wages in communist countries no less. So many will say what they will but free trade and NAFTA will no longer EVER be a viable workable option WITHOUT illegal labor and the choice and chance for the "LITTLE guy" to make a few bucks on the side.

Hate is blind and intolerance is ignorance on a scale only imagined after the reality of it has set in. I warned you all. My readers have thanked me. ;]

Cheers

I know of a very rich man personally' and he will flaunt and throw his money away than give for the ones who work hard and care for him, go figure..

jay our leaders know exactly how free trade/job exporting is destroying this country.they are being paid exorbitant amounts of money to betray us.that's why some many are protesting.we have to stop congress from being bought one way or another

Lusitania - you said it your self ( his money ) if he wanted to use it for toilet paper, he can its his money

We invent new products here in the U.S. then send the raw materials, equipment, and the jobs to a foreign country. The politicians need to take action or this will never end.

laid off from U.S. Steel in Ohio in 1983...

Lets see...doin the math...OK!

In 'construction for "almost" 30 years...but was "laid off" in 83'? He worked there less than 2 years and then was "laid off"?? More to this (and the other) stories. It's all simply to sell another Federal Givaway program sponsored by our failed President.

Not fallin' for it!

Oh, give the retardicons a break. They can't help the fact that they are brain dead from having their heads up their asses.

LIz: You sound like the folks out there who are part of the problem. Name calling, blaming, and class warfare will not get these folks back to work. Working together (without your name calling, attacks, blaming and class warrfare) will. You talk about teabaggers this and GOP that, while the other side talks about liberals this and dummycrats that.

Butler alleged the existence of a political conspiracy of Wall Street interests to overthrow President , a series of allegations that came to be known in the media as the Business Plot.

I read somewhere that 50% of americans do not pay tax. he said its fact. No. Everyone pays tax. The rich pay the least tax. Any fool can search Transfer pricing and understand how the rich dingbats get away it.

They pay off the police, FBI, SEC , regulatory agencies with bribes.

johny... don't strain your neck lookin for those black helicoptors.

And hate to inform you that at least 40% pay NO tax.

Sales tax?? Gas tax??

Um, how does one pay sales tax with money that's given to you by the government (including unemployment compensation). The taxpayers are paying those sales (and other) taxes, not the recipients of the entitlements.

seeing how right after i posted this, the whole thread was collapsed...

this article was noting but a boo hoo on the jobs bills the unions were promised. boo hoo! union constrution worker, union teachers...boo hoo! what about the other jobs for non union begging for a bit of help?

i tell ya what. i was off work for basically 3 1/2 yrs before i found steady work, if ANY work. i lost my ass (parden me but), basically every thing worth anything, i will adamit it wasnt fun. it basically left a nasty scar, and its steal healing. but never did i feel once, less of a man. i felt depressed, who wouldnt? i was pi$$ed... who wouldnt, and most of all, who non union are still looking for a job, any job feeling right now? why should the taxpayer blow it all away on another "JOBS" bill? this is nothing but more propaganda for the bill, boo hoo poor union... go flip a burger and make a union there... if anyone needs a raise... get a job there, and make your own little burger flipping union.you can even run it... be called Mr Union of the Burger Flippers 902 or something real snazzy!

think of all the fast food joints you can band together, and take them for the sake of giving them some job security in the slave labor wages, for standing, and having to get cranky... $$ in the makeing there. then if they dont hire you, you can complain about some form of dicrimination, turn down the job because now you will an embarassment if they gave you after. so you get a little payout from the company there.. just like that broad who wanted the job at FEDEX. temp agent i sort of doubt would say something that stupid.

none the less... no to the jobs bill... there are plenty of non union members that need a job too.... put the money into a form of creating real jobs, not to more taxpayer payout i would go in for, but not all to the unions...again! if there cant be a way to do that, then dont give him another penny.

lets see just how this president really is... for the unions, or for the people!

again... everyone, lets all cry for the unions because they dont get to rape us for another failed "jobs" bill....

yabecoo, they're all fat because they have to eat cheap, processed crap that isn't real food. Not getting real nutrition so they stay hungry and eat more cheap, processed, genetically modified food.

Change is indeed coming, and it's not good for either side of the one party system.

Your fat excuse is silly - raw, healthy food is cheaper than the crap you talk about.

But here is my question. What do we do differently to equalize the realities of Kobe, LeBron and others earning 100's of millions of dollars and the entry level McDonalds worker earning minimum wage?

LeBron earns his money through God given gifts and a ton of hard work. His business is a model that rewards this kind of person as he helps generate $100's of millions in revenue, along with his owner and team mates.

Same for many bankers and Wall St types, CEO's of Google, Apple, etc...

I understand the problems with how our Government changed laws allowing all kinds of risky behavior in finance - so let's address that issue, along with any others, specifically.

But here is the elephant in the room - Government is no solution to earnings discrepancies in a free society, and taxing rich people more heavily does not enrich the poor - if it did, we would have eliminated the poor decades ago. Instead under Obama's watch, we have more poor than ever, more black kids out of work, and more people on food stamps.

Can't blame Bush, we are 3 years and many TRILLIONS of dollars into the Obama plan. It isn't working.

Making government bigger only makes the private sector poorer, as all money comes from private sector activity.

So without blaming others, or being silly, how about a real idea from the left as to how to raise all ships, through a rising tide, not through growing government?

Well, that idea sure as hell isn't going to come from the right, or business, both of whom believe widespread and long term unemployment for Americans is a good thing, at least economically, because it fattens the bottom line of the companies who buy the government by lowering the average wage continually, by increasing unemployment continually. You know that's how it works, and that is their plan, and there is nothing you or I can do about it. In the short term. Or the long.

PaulF maybe we are 3 years removed from the failed Bush policies, but it is still his mess that Obama walked into. I can't understand why Obama wants to be replaced by the Tea/Republicans he is following Bush's plan to the "T" as we speak. He has cut more in Tax monies than Bush did in his 8 years in office. What the heck, and the Tea?republicans have signed a oath to make him a one term President. How laughable. Oh he passed the Obama Health Care plan without them. He asked them to come to the table, but the ink on the oath had not dried yet so they couldn't. Where are the so called job Bills that the republicans ran on in 2010. Sitting on Reid's desk cause they are nothing more than deregulation plans not Job Bills. Why give any corporation more tax cuts till they start putting people back to work. Why Bush created them in the first place, to stimualte job growth here in America. Yea they created jobs in China or other developing countries, but not in America. Under Clinton with a 38% tax rate for the wealthy 23 million jobs were created. How many jobs were created under Bush tax cuts for 8 years...1.2 million jobs. No wonder we had a negative job growth of 20% under Bush. Trickle Dowm does not work. I have a plan...tax the corporations that send jobs overseas by the original 39% not loop holes and plus 5% surcharge for the additional unemployment. If they want to leave let them...we will give the companies who hire and reinvest in America a flat rate of 10%. How about that one PaulF.

Paul you are wrong.

Healthy food are more expensive than cheap process foods. Anyone that goes grocery shopping knows that. Tell me, what can you buy with 1.10 ? Maybe a fruit. At McDonalds you can get a hamburger with that.

If you still don't get it, even the organics are way more expensive than the regular vegetables.

Your fat excuse is silly - raw, healthy food is cheaper than the crap you talk about.

No it isn't Paul. Many of the homeless take what they can get, which is often a cheap burger.

You can buy a burger for a less than $2.00 your raw healthy food takes a place to cook it, and it will cost more. If you are not going to cook it then it will cost even more to get the necessary protein.

Obama isn't at fault, Bush isn't at fault.

Really I think you have to look at the clowns in congress and the senate.

While both presidents have had to fight the clowns I do think Obama has tried harder to work with the "enemy". I say "enemy" because the GOP has taken that stance. If Obama said we need to turn left the GOP would say, "how stupid we need to go right." If he said we need to go right they would claim we need to go left.

The GOP has made it their mission to NOT work with Obama more than any other congress at any other time in our history - they are destroying this nation.

Time for the Cain 999 plan... NOT

anon...I thought change came in 2008?

To anonymous126:

Sounds like your reading from the Communist Manifesto that most likely the Unions paid for. Most likely you are sitting in your parents basement writing this dribble after you just ordered the new IPhone on your mommy's credit card...

What I can't stand is the FACT that 50% of AMERICANS DO NOT PAY TAXES! Mommy will tuck you in after a bed-time story.. OK my wittle pumpkin.... Oh sounds like your from the 90's generation where you got a trophy for 5th place! YA anonymous! Your my wittle angel!

Its worse. No people will sit idle and wait for someone else to do something. Remmeber 9-11, What happened? The peopel sat back let the terrorists fly the planes into the wall trade center.

What happened here? The GFC killed more people. How? Suicides. Its the ugly truth. Alot of americans have lost hope and looking for something. Stop being cynical. You can change things. Don't die. Make it happen. Do what you can.

The pen is more mighty then the sword. Hint, Write to your congress person.

See my earilier posts or just a search on More equality in income destribution. In countries and times and history shows we have more growth and more jobs.

The rich elites and banker familiers and CEOs and top 100 earners in this corporations are waiting all cashed up for the bottom of the economy to drop out. WHy? When we have economic turmoil, its when the richs are made fast. The millionaires become billionaires. They are betting on this failure. No hard work. Just sit and wait for the unemployed to break and we get a firesale. THen we get the richs to flow to the rightful owners. The American banking families and cronies. They want it all. You guys have way too much.

Don't believe me? We need to go back to my hero. This guy fought the establishment before and USMC smedley butler.

http://rationalrevolution.net/war/major_general_smedley_butler_usm.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

Now you want high treason? We got that too.

You want to see how ruthless these people are? GFC. its small. Where did that 235 millionaires and billionaires get there richs? Easy , Just have to be be ready to get people to die for it.

This same General, watch the youtube documentary and the cover up. The blood may have turned black now and blown away. The dust covering the tombs and the old bones. THey tell you what is happening, the apple doesnt fall far from the tree. The rich want this covered up. Search this

conspiracies USMC General Smedley, Congress never followed it up.

U want change? Regulate the CEO pay to keep corporations build by americans solvent. You need to know your enemy. Its out there and hidden.

Like the parallels of income inequality in America being worse than the Ivory Coast, Uganda, or even Pakistan. Quite true. 46 Million without health insurance, 14 million unemployed, the majority of Americans living paycheck to paycheck, many small businesses struggling and on the verge of bankruptcy, and so on and so forth. This is NOT the America that I grew up in, and fought for in Vietnam, and became disabled as a result of the war.

Have an idea. Tax the CEO's at 100 percent, and give them Food Stamps and Unemployment to live on, and see how they would make it. Bet you that they will not. Just a thought.

Paul F--raw, healthy food is cheaper? Really? How do you beat 15 cents a meal for Ramen. How do you beat 25 cents a meal for boxed mac and cheese? How do you beat 25 cents a meal for vienna sausage?

You are going to eat raw, healthy meals for $1 or under? Really? Go to the store and find this food--unless you mean for people to eat beans made in water or bagged rice with nothing else (neither of which is any healthier--as it's pure carbohydrate even if it's not "processed"), you are still way over a dollar.

It kills me when people who don't do shopping and have no idea how to cook talk about raw, healthy food based on what they see in their grocery stores--not knowing that poor people don't have grocery stores nearby that put healthier foods on sale, if they have grocery stores at all.

Seriously--go to the grocery store in a poor area and try to find meals that are healthy for under a dollar a day. Give it a shot, bozo. It's been tried, and it can't be done.

Bean@home you hit the nail on the head hopefully something gives

Obama and all his friends are millionaires.

His Jobs Czar is the GE CEO, Jeffrey Immelt, who is building a new factory in CHINA. How are liberals caring about the average American when our top "jobs guy" is a multi-millionaire running a multi-billion dollar corp paying no taxes, shipping jobs overseas?

Your simplistic view of parties is just that. Republicans care about everyone. Liberals care about what everyone thinks about who they care about.

You realize your last paragraph made no sense whatsoever, don't you?

Republicans don't give a rat's arse about anyone except the top 1% that donates to them.

The non-1% Republican voters are the biggest fools ever.

Obama has lowered taxes EVEN FURTHER than Bush, yet the reich-wing is still not satisified until there are ZERO taxes. At least, zero taxes for the rich.

teahead: In light of the fact that we have a 14 trillion dollar debt, no amount of taxes can be raised by taxing the one percent that would even put a small dent in it. There just aren't that many of them.

So, the question becomes, will taxing them create a job in the private sector. The answer is, of course, no. But what it will do is make liberals feel better about themselves to think they have some power over people they don't like.

Make no mistake, the "occupy Wall Street" crowd, isn't protesting about money, wealth, greed or anything else they might think they are railing against.

What they are REALLY protesting is the fact that they have NO power over the people they don't like. That's what it's REALLY all about. And it's power that they really want.

The sad part is that they don't realize that in the process, they are willing to sacrifice their own freedom for the acquisition of a power they think will give them satisfaction, right up until the point where they suddenly understand that the very power they sought is now being used against them as well.

Fortunately, there are still far too many of us who are willing to die for our freedom and who are not willing to sacrifice that freedom which the would be communists in "occupy Wall Street" are willing to make.

Isn't it funny how when Bush passed the Patriot act, all the liberals were screaming Ben Franklin's famous quote about those that would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

Amazing how that suddenly goes out the window when Obamacare, the TSA, privatization of SS, personal responsibility and a whole hose of other security issues that liberals love the government to be in charge of are threatened by those who don't want the government interference in their life. That would include me.

I am a RINO and I do care about the well being of other people, I just don't think I should have to spend my hard earned money to pay for someone to sit on their butt doing nothing because they are to lazy to work (welfare, for the most part). Nor do I think I should have to pay to provide social services of any kind to people who are here illegally. It is not the job of the rest of the population to GIVE you anything except help when you need it, nor to provide for you the rest of your life. We need term limits and we also need limits on how long you can collect welfare and to drug tests for any applicant for welfare or unemployment benefits.

Actually we have the fox news guy Conservative friend here type alot of stuff that is not logical and is not backed up by facts.

If we put up taxes to 90% and stopped transfer pricing that the rich folk practice. The debt would be paid off in a decade. We cant have that.

Anyone who stands up to Corporate elites, Rich folk, or demands a fair pay for fair work is labled a communist.

You cant deal with the repubankstercans. The constant lieing goes on. They lie because they know no one will believe it that some will go to these lengths to lie.They got away with high treason. Now thats not enough

After having a long chat with a veteran recently. He told me plain and simple. We went to iraq because Saadam threatened the Bush family. That war was personal. I thought he was crazy. But after reading about USMC general Smedley and the conspiracies. Its plausible.

Its worse then that. The top people they point too said the system failed. Alan greenspan is pointed too by all these people. Now he is depised by them.

Listen to Alan greenspan

"I made a mistake in presuming that the self-interests of organisations, specifically banks and others, were such that they were best capable of protecting their own shareholders and their equity in the firms."

Get it. Clinton is lieing too or ignorant. He wont say it out right. The CEOs and boards that award the idiocy pay destroying america. Thats the problem.

CEO pay , so high, still these guy destroy and burn and leave nothing for the rest of the employees. The media rally against it.

Its the mind warefare. The constant lieing. The 401ks lost 850 billion in losses in 2008. Who vote these board who were against the stockholders? The 401k fund managers are bought and paid for. The boards award the crazy pay for failure against there own interests.

How to change it? Stop them from taking the cash and running.

I get so angry when I hear marginalized segments of society labeled lazy freedloaders. These people who label are people who know no poverty and therefore can't possibly understand the cycle of poverty. Once you're on government assistance, it's almost impossible to get off. Yet without it, we'd see record number of starving men, women and children.

There's no financial education, no explanation of what help is available to those who want to better their lives, go to college, pull themselves up. Most have never ever seen a bank register, let alone taught how to use one.

I'm sick to death of people pretending we're all born on this level playing field and where we end up is directly equal to the amount of effort put in. That's a lie and we all know it.

I think 2,500 at a job fair speak volumes, 13,000 applied for position of sign holder in Washington state after being online 3 hours. They interviewed 50 people for my position. I don't believe for a 2nd we have an abudance of jobs. Illegals paid taxes and the gov't had a crap load of it before we tripled deportation in this country. We have opened 10 holding facilities in America that I know of in the past few months. We now are paying the jails in Albama to higher inmates for us to pack food. Its a great thing but everyone in this new workforce will file taxes in the end. The gov't doesn't get that free chunk of money that remained unclaimed and uncashed. We have cut billions from feeding Americans, are we trying to treat our children like 3rd countries? Increase hunger and starve the people through lack of jobs. Let the churches give spoiled food. I went to a church last time I was out of work with 3 kids and received loaves of mold bread and cake to eat for 2 weeks. Its sickening to live like this, and sucks that I can work for years and have to go homeless and starve. No assistance exists in Illinois and they don't consider you homeless if you sleep in a car. I left the state to California and I'm holding up but I'm in a studio apartment with 3 babies! I called 150 low income housing units in my county and they are all full. It sucks and I need help to survive even with a job. My employer just cut my pay check by 18% and increased my hours. My life is spent working for nothing and that's what we should be fighting against.

The rich folk know about the suffering. Rebanksterstans know about it. Any doubt is gone now.

Do a search on GOP death cheer. They know. They want the unemployed to lose everything. They want to take everything and have slaves.

This solution rewards the most irresponsible, while punishing those of us who have never believed that debt was a viable instrument to pay for things.

Sounds like a response by the envious and lazy.

So it's okay for a company to get too big to fail and take billions from the taxpayer then?

Remmeber this. You cant find work? DO this. LIE. learn from the rich folk. Make up any sh+t. Just lie to get that job.

Remmeber. If you need references? All the unemployed should give each other references . Everyone else lies. Why not you?

Don't be ashamed. Bring out the ugly truth. Let the Rebankstercans who have already blood on there hands show there ugly selfs.

Make CEO pay an election issue.

yea even high treason.

And Obama has Jeffrey Immelt the CEO of GE anointed as his Jobs Czar - same guy who is building a new factory in CHINA.

Nice try on the one-party BS but you deserve what you get if you believe Democrats are any different - they are just bigger liars.

Not one party BS- both parties BS. As for bigger liars- have to disagree on that. Republicans certainly do their best when lying. Democrats are not far behind, but they are behind.

Republicans/democrats both parties are to blame for this mess. You guys need to face it. Those 1% own Washington. Romney, Cain, Hunt, Perry. all for the bank bailouts.

Who the hell is Alan Grayson? And why should I vote for him?

Alan Grayson (D-Central Florida) is a billionaire developer who employed mostly illegals for construction work. He spent 3+ million to get alected to congress in 2008, then lost in 2010.

Is that what you're doing? Are you in his situation? If so, then fine. If not, then STFU.

Actually, that's pretty much what I did; except I now rent a home at half the cost my mortgage was, am debt free, and work in the same field (for half the income) as the job I was laid off from in 2008.

OK, then fine. I've seen too many insinuations from others elsewhere with the same type of ideas, and the unspoken sentiment that somehow the people who do things like that are low-lifes and cheats. Good for you. I may well do the same thing if forced to, and in this economy, that ain't exactly unlikely.

Sounds like you know ALL THE TRICKS to the system, but have a job now, and thus your independent candor. If you only had a clue as to what programs and help that have been cut, then I might have some respect for your comment.

BTW @$$wipe...... Medicare is for the disabled and retired. Medicaid is for people out of work and can't afford medical services. Usually after going through MONTHS of paperwork and interviews. Ask anyone out of work, and let them give you the 411 as to help that is available.

Before you open your mouth, get your facts straight. Besides not making you look like a fool, it will save oxygen for the rest of the planet.

I have decided to become a mexican. Free health care, no need for a drivers lic. and insurance, free schooling, paid cash (no taxes) move into a foreclose home (then into another when thrown out) send my cash back to mexico to retire, no need for a passport, belong to a country that controls its boarders(don't want any illegals coming up from central or south america). Thats how to save a bundle of cash! Oh yeah, invest in pot and ship it north-- Behind every great fortune there is a crime.

I wanna be one of those that don't have to pay their fair share!

You should also move to California. I read that they are now paying illegal kids financial aid out of tax payer's money. Must be nice.

No sh*t, now thats what I call a dream act. Packing my bags right now lmao. I gotta learn spanish.

cant exclude home and paid for possesions anymore. bush passed a law that seriously curtailed bankruptcy suits for the middle class, now if you claim bankruptcy everything goes. on the flip side he eased corporate bankruptcy laws.

Medicaid, medicare. Attack me for semantics. You know what I meant. Oh, you have to fill out paperwork? No sh*t.

After forty years paying into the system, I wasn't afraid of using the system to my advantage when it became necessary. I'm employed now, and after major lifestyle changes, actually much happier.

As far as not being able to exclude possesions, that's BS. I did. That's a judge's call. I had a great bankruptcy lawyer. Cost me $600.00 and twenty minutes court time.

So how do you go to the 40 hour workshop seminars required to receive welfare and work under the table? I went to the workshops and I bought a lap top. I carried it around and put in 120 applications a day, while listening to 8 hours of lecture on why I couldn't get a job from "welfare". I got a job 8 months later. Boy I should've done it the ez way in between going to those workshops since they are mandatory and they take away your welfare if you don't attend. Seems ez to you doesn't it?

Guess you need to sign up for welfare in a state like Florida that doesn't require "workshops."

Filing bankruptcy doesn't get me the necessary prescription drugs I need to survive. I have had diabetes for over 45 years, I have been blessed by God that I am doing very well considering what happens to diabetics like infections especially in the foot that lead to amputations, kidney disease, which leads to dialysis, (if your lucky you may get a transplant that last 7 -10 years and then your back on the waiting list for another kidney) but more likely than not you will die because of all the complications that come along with it, high blood pressure, high chlosterol, problems with the eyes. The stress of it all is enough to raise one's sugar level. You start to loose friends and family becuase of the situation that has presented itself but true friends and family stick by you even if it is a prayer or words of encouragemnt.

We would like to thank everyone for their comments and thoughts. I know we do not stand alone in this line of unemployment, no medical insurance, cost of everything going sky high (how do you pay for food, gas and presccriptions if your wallet is empty)? I know God carries us but I hope he will let us walk on our own soon.

I paid into the system for forty years. It's mine time to take a little back. Oh, well. You do what you have to do to survive.

Peter17: you are wrong, this country needs health care period! it is costing families to lose everything it needed to be a single payer system that would help the whole country!!!

Um...... IF the government actually stopped both Iraq and Afghan wars in 2009 and used that same money in our economy and fixed infrastructures here instead of foreign countries...... I bet we would have been in a better shape.

If they would have finished the first one and hadn't started a second one we wouldn't have been in any wars after 2003.

Don't speak for me . I don't need health care. I will risk it and die some horrible death. (sarcasm).

GOP death cheer. Search on it.

AJ from Ohio. Think about This!!!! If you tell someone (Insurance Companies) that they have to do something (insure everyone) that They haven't done before, and that in 3 years (1JAN2014) They have to insure everyone what do you think they will do before 2014? Yep increase premiums by 30% so far...And probably at least another 20% before 1JAN2014. Now even the employed people will not be able to afford, You are right about that $10,000 premiums. The imbicile Demorcrats High fiving all the way to socialism. So drop to your knees open that mouth and I'll give you 2 minutes to draw a crowd. Idiot...

The Democrats control the Senate, and even some Democrats voted against Obama's Jobs Bill. Think about that. Obama gave 1.2 billion dollars to a Solar panel company called Sunpower. Sunpower is over 820 million dollars in debt and wil soon file for bankruptcy. Some of the money Obama gave Sunpower was used to build a factory in Mexico. Think about that!

Yea yea. Well the poor CEO is working hard too. He only got his 50 million a year. Then his daughters and relatives only earned another couple of million. The hard work hiding the money using transfer pricing is hard work.

You guys have it easy. TO be rich you have to hide money all over and have the IRS stand over you.

( im trying to be funny)

CEO , easy job. Just play golf and tell people your having a meeting. The idiots can work and die and fight over 50k wage.

The Bush-Era tax cuts extended by Obama had nothing to do with corporate tax rates. The corporate tax rate has been 35% for a long time.

but due to the loop holes in the corporate tax rate many if not most are only paying 0-9% on their taxes

Why should he thank the Republcans? He should really thank the Democrats since they have had the White House and/or both houses of Congress since 2007. Things have progressively gotten worse since Obama.

Remember Obama has had three years and the Senate Has been controlled by democrats for 5 years, and congress up to 6 months ago. Sorry blaming others is kid stuff and the democrats are now the major cause and Obama and the Democrats will now be held responsible. 5 years trillions and trillions and Obama is still blaming Bush. Obama one day needs to become a man and accept responsibility.

democrat control is a myth. they have had only 58 percent of the vote. in case you didnt realize it you need to have a 60% vote to pass anything hence the word fillabuster.

You are wrong. The filabuster is only avaliable in the senate, which the democrats have controlled for years.

What are you talking about? When did this happen? I live here and have never heard anything about this.

And the Republican's don't? Oh I forgot, your not wealthy, then you must be a freeloader. Why don't you just die, better yet, maybe we can help. We will just remove all "entitlements" that you worked all your life for. Really, try getting your thought's together instead of blaming one party or person. Maybe you need the "clue" about who is taking what away.

Dude, what ARE you smoking? The United States needs to STOP thinking Republican/Democrat and START thinking AMERICAN. Until that happens, NOTHING will improve. Stop this crap of North/South, Repubs/Dems, etc. We are ALL Americans and unless we get our lives together, our lives, ALL of our lives, will only get worse.

Most of our wealthy elite are Democrats, including those on Wall Street.

Peter17 what the HELL are you smoking? Back that BS with some facts, that is the biggest lie told since the Republicans debated last night.

Jamie Dimon, CEO of JP Morgan Chase, well known Democrat, John Mack CEO of Morgan Stanley, well known Democrat and big supporter of Hilliary Clinton for President. George Soros, hedge fund manager, big time Democrat. Warren Buffet, big supporter of Obama. I saved the best for last.

This data comes from CNN. In the 2008 Presidential Campaign, Goldman Sachs execs contributed $994,795 to the Obama campaign and $230,095 to the McCain campaign. In fact, GS was the number two company pac/employee contributor to Obama. In the last 20 years, GS execs have donated twice as much to Democrats as Republicans.

JP Morgan Chase execs gave $635,920 to Obama and $228,107 to McCain. Citigroup gave $701,290 to Obama and $322,051 to McCain. Microsoft execs gave $833,617 to Obama, Google execs $803,436 to Obama, IBM execs $528,822, and none of these three even show on the top 20 list for McCain. How many more examples would you like???

Independant-Voter: Thank You!

This is what I've been saying all along! Divide and conquer; that's all this Republican/Democrat bull@!$%# really is. That's all it ever was!

Who wants to disarm America? Seriously--you go out and find a single group of people who are doing anything more than trying to keep people from toting around guns in the wide open in public. There are more guns in the US than pretty much anywhere in the world--who is taking away these guns? Where?

It kills me when people just make things up. You start out talking about liberal Democrats, and you end talking about Southern (Conservative) Democrats from 60 stinking years ago. It is deeply, deeply annoying to read things from people who will just shift around with no evidence whatsoever, throwing this bucket of mud and that bucket of mud--hoping that something will stick.

Obama has tried to work with a bipartisan government--he hasn't succeeded, but that is more the fault of really dumb people who don't understand what he's doing. Oh, they all hate the health care bill--until they are told what's in it, and then they like 80% of the bits and parts. Oh, they all think that we are going "socialist" because of the Democrats who are all millionaires and owned by the major corporations (huh?). Oh, the Democrats are all freedom-hating Islam-lovers who keep starting wars in the Middle East and won't bring our soldiers home (huh?). Oh, Obama is a fascist like Hitler (who hated socialists) and a totalitarian like Stalin but he can't get anything done because he's a do-nothing who is always on vacation . . . .

What really bothers me is that people say this stuff and other people are either too stupid to understand that you can't be both these things at the same time or that people are so craven that they do know you can't be both these things at the same time, but don't care because they just like to hear negative things. And, you wonder why it is that we don't get anything done any more in the US?

Peter17,

You can cherry pick your data all you like, I could show you how the Koch brothers have manipulated elections, wined a dined to Supreme Court Justices, and helped Corporations get the same rights as citizens. There is corruption on both sides of the isle but to say that Democrats are more guilty than Republicans is totally ridiculous and fictitious.